carl hammond
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Will be well worth the wait mateCheers mate. Fingers crossed. It's going to be a long wait until sept.
Will be well worth the wait mateCheers mate. Fingers crossed. It's going to be a long wait until sept.
Where are you based mate and what tyres are you using ?Crackfox said:Thought I'd do an update to tidy this thread up. Got the Meisters off yesterday at TGM and swapped for B14's. Defiantly well worth the upgrade. Night and day in comparison, much less of a thud when going over bumps/man hole covers etc. Did 220 miles on them back from TGM and other than the numb ass, thoroughly enjoyed the ride. Took the car to a more "fruity" speed for the first time since I've owned it.
Still not ironed out the handling issues completely, but that's Area and TGM now that have said to get the 225's off and get some 215's, so that will probably be my next big move. Unfortunately there is a fair bit of tread on my current rubber, so not prepared to throw that away just yet. But when they're due I'll defiantly be dropped a size. Got a few other jobs to be getting on with in the mean time.
Grimsby. They're Avon ZV7 225 45 17'scarl hammond said:Where are you based mate and what tyres are you using ?
Glad the Bilsteins are a nice change and you like them, I love my B16's and will be sad to see them go tbh
Oh damn not close then, was going to saw fit a set of my spare wheels for a few days and see how they feel as one set has 215/45/17's on them mate, maybe someone more local can help with that as it can rule that out, but I run 225,45,17 on mine and it's never been an issue (I kinda hate it when I re-fit the 215's) lolGrimsby. They're Avon ZV7 225 45 17's
I think part of the issue is the tyre being quite a soft wall to be honest. But with 2 reputable people now saying go 215 it's swayed my decision. Having away for 3 months it'll probably run into early next year before i need to change them anyway.carl hammond said:Oh damn not close then, was going to saw fit a set of my spare wheels for a few days and see how they feel as one set has 215/45/17's on them mate, maybe someone more local can help with that as it can rule that out, but I run 225,45,17 on mine and it's never been an issue (I kinda hate it when I re-fit the 215's) lol
OEM Height Measurements (from the wheel arch to the middle of the centre cap on the wheels)Sorry to bump an old thread, but thought it best rather than starting a new one!
@Crackfox - did you ever get to the bottom of what the OEM ride height was? I’ve found many different measurements on here and internet.
Some posts suggest a 380mm front vs 355mm rear (arch to wheel centre) - my DC5 is on meisterR coilovers too, with current measurements around 332mm front and rear. It is pulling to the right a bit but had recent 4 wheel alignment done. I measured and think my drivers side is lower than passenger which could be contributing to the issue though...
TGT supplied and fitted the MeisterRs too, car hasn’t done a whole load of miles since fitting back in 2019, but the handling feels a little wayward and Id like to get to the bottom of it. The AD08Rs could well be contributing to the mix, but I’ll only replace them when they’re worn out.
Cheers!
Mine setup purely for track mate so mines a bad base to go from, every corners diff to the last for height, camber etc as it’s fully corner weighted for my weight and driving style so mines not really able to be used as a guide I’m afraid :-(Do you have your car set up at same height all around, or is your rear higher to help with turn in?
The Bilsteins made a huge difference to mine over the meisters.Sorry to bump an old thread, but thought it best rather than starting a new one!
@Crackfox - did you ever get to the bottom of what the OEM ride height was? I’ve found many different measurements on here and internet.
Some posts suggest a 380mm front vs 355mm rear (arch to wheel centre) - my DC5 is on meisterR coilovers too, with current measurements around 332mm front and rear. It is pulling to the right a bit but had recent 4 wheel alignment done. I measured and think my drivers side is lower than passenger which could be contributing to the issue though...
TGT supplied and fitted the MeisterRs too, car hasn’t done a whole load of miles since fitting back in 2019, but the handling feels a little wayward and Id like to get to the bottom of it. The AD08Rs could well be contributing to the mix, but I’ll only replace them when they’re worn out.
Cheers!
Where are you based? My geo guy would have a look for you or if needed come have a drive of mine and see how it compares and if wanted I’d have a drive of yours to have a feel for it as I’m only in West Malling Kent mateTyres/pressures etc all ok. TGM did the recent 4 wheel alignment and it was much better than before, but still drifting right if I let go of the wheel, slow/high/constant speeds or accelerating.
I’ll keep researching, need to find somewhere local who can spend some time aligning it and adjusting heights properly, think if I went at it I’d just make it worse.
Correct mate, when doing a proper full corner weighted geo it’s done on a diagonal basis and you aim to get the diagonal weight distribution as close to 50/50 as you can.The Bilsteins made a huge difference to mine over the meisters.
As Carl said with ride height. However, from what I could find, steering arms are at the same height as the standard Acura rsx, but the car sits 20mm lower put of the box. So any lowering you do has to account for the additional 20mm as well. So a 30mm drop is effectively a 50mm drop.
That wont help with a right pull though. If you drivers side is lower, then it will be even more so with you in it. I'm not saying you should try and account for your weight, as that would be better of done by the pro's as Carl had. But its worth bareing in mind as it should be at least level when sat.
With my limited knowledge I also believe it then affects the rear near side, in a diagonal if you adjust it. You also need to make sure when measuring that the car is sat on a perfect level as that will effect it a lot. You might be reading it out on one side due to a dip. And don't assume that banging it on a ramp at the local spanner shop means it is either. Check it.
Food for thought. I did a mile trip on some backnroads with 75kg of plaster in the boot yesterday. I spread the weight, mainly to stop the boot liner caving in, and turn in was badly affected. So imagine your assumed height difference, plus you in it, affecting that one rear corner. I would think that would cause some handling issues on one side. You'd effectively be lifting the rear nearside, which I THINK would cause lighter steering to the right. So you might be feeling the normal wandering of the car Carl mentioned, but exasperated to one side. Purely a guess though.