AVOID - DESMOND ONG / AUTOBACS Solihul, WM

RockinVtec

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Last year iwas was looking for a good garage to service my ITR, i saw a post on the teg (DC2) forum recommending :-

AUTOBACS UK PTE. LTD
Desmond Ong
267G, Royston House
Cranmore Boulevard,
Shirley, Solihull
B90 4QT

after my first couple of vists to Des ( who goes on with spiel like hes a geniue guy and always does good job) he mentioned he had been unfairly critised on the itr forum and even asked me to clear his name for bad press he had received, unfortunately after id seen the 1st post recommendng him ! ), I then contacted him to do couple jobs on my teg and MOT it. He had my Teg and lent me mk2 CRX to use whilst he had it. I was chuffed as i used to own an EF8 . However, the brakes were totally shot and suspension niknak, and pretty badly rusted. I asked him about the bougus EK9 CTR caper previous mentioned on the ITR forum, and he blamed everyone but himself. I did think a specialist like him should know the difference between a VTI & TYPE R !

Anyway, after chasing him for costs after numberous times , we agreed i could pick up my car during my luchtime time and call him that evening to pay on my girlfriends credit card (which we had done previously successfully although i never received my invoice - more on that in abit ). He`d had my teg nearly two weeks so i was pretty happy to be getting it back ( id given it him end of NOV and it was now Dec). I only had 5 mins to pick it up, and the first thing he said was "your clutch is gone! " i replied it was brand new ACT clutch uprated to 240lb, and had done only about 6k miles". To which, he immediately replied "i have`nt been racing it " (which rang alarms bells). Anyway i had to get back to work so i said i would call him later. When i got to work, i noticed some white paint like finger marks on my Teg, so checked it over and found a scrape on the f/o/s bumper !!! which had obvious just had a piant "touch up"" ! So after work i rang him, and it went to voicemail. I was fuming ... as you can imagine ... so left a heated message that he had bumped my car and damaged clutch, and would call him again tomorrow to discuss and make payment. At which point i threw my phone accross the room. Before bed went to switch it off and found it already off , so turned it on only to find message from Des stating HE HAS NOT BUMPED MY CAR, he is not a liar, he is genuine blah blah blah and if i dont pay he will go to police ! at no time did i say i would not pay him. So next day rang him, at which point he tried to talk over me...after raising my voice he finally agreed HE HAD LIED!!!! and had scrape my bumper when reversing into his garage, and that he would knock price of repairs off the bill and have a look at clutch for me foc . I naturally declined, passed the phone to my GF who paid him on her credit card, she then passed phone back to me saying Des wanted a word. At which point he told me he,d charged me an extra £30 as he forgot something to include. I told him to post my invoices and we`d leave at that.

I then chased him on a few occasion for my invoices, only to be told hes really busy and he wont forget. Eventually, it became apparent that i would have to go see him. So rang him, advised ive drawn a line on whats happened in past, and could he top up my oil. So went to see him, got he to do work, which he charged £10 more than was agreed. I previously asked him to make sure all my invoices were ready for collection. Only to be told hed left his invoice pad at home and would get them to me by the end of the week. That week came and went, so rang him again, only to be told his computer was down but would definately get them to me by weekend. At which point i lost it, told him i would report him to trading standards if i did not receive them and would go back on forum and air my story ! He then left a message on my voice mail saying hes not scared of me ! so there it is... he is UNPROFESSIONAL, A LIAR AND A CHEAT - AVOID AT ALL COSTS !!!
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RockinVtec

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because im one of the good guys 8) and would not want to be tarnished with the same brush as that "insert Expletive" here .... or stoop to his level :)

if i was 20 again things may of been different ... but ive learnt voilence is the answer .

anyhoo guys learn by my experience and avoid like the plague !!!
 

Dan2020

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Can't believe you paid someone to top up your oil!!! :shock: I would top it up for you for free!!
 

silverdevill

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well, i must not be one of the good guys then...because i would'nt of paid him a penny!...and if he'd scratched my car i probably would've broke both his hands!...
 

RockinVtec

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funny enough, a chap stopped me the other day asking to buy my Teg, we got chatting i mentioned i now have DAZ (DNR Tuned) working on my car, to which he said DES from shirley? and it turns out a mate of his took his MG down for price on tune up, when he came back the engine was it bits and was charged £800 when he only asked for a quote !!

dont worry reported him to trading standards and when i get time will write to "ROGUE TRADERS " tossers like that cant get anyway with it !
 

VT-Doo

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Daz @ DNR is a top bloke. You will not be disappointed :)

As for the other guy, Des, I can't believe you paid him and then went back to him ](*,)

What exactly did he do for it to take two weeks and how much did it cost :?:
 

RockinVtec

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Hi VT DOO (say hello to doug kyle when u next see him please! ),

yeah DAZ top bloke !

He did mot, engine mount , fuel line, oil filter change, TXT to say £400, then charged £430 as he said he`d forgotten hed topped up some other fluids ( i think) ... THE only reason i went back to him was to get my service history... thats why i only asked for oils top up ...
 

Aly

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Should of noted the miles, i do this everytime i get any work done when im not there.

Honestly if this was me i would of went round and stomped him into the ground. But hey thats just me..
 

eXceed

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If you want I would go down in convoy with you and help you get your money back? I know some pretty big guys ;)
 

jono888

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Sorry to drag out this old topic. I met this guy last year through a friend and thought he was quite genuine, however THAT IS NOT THE CASE!

I got disillusioned after seeing his facelift DC5 on one of his ramps and at the time I had my colt, said I was always interested in a DC5, he then told me to sell the colt and buy one of his cars, which I am driving now (Honda Civic 1.6 VTI) and he will help me import a DC5 and then when it arrives, he will take back the Civic, pay what I had paid for the Civic off the final bill for the DC5 and I pay whats left or if I don't order the DC5, he will still give me full price for what I had paid him for the car.

6 months later, now that I had lost my patience with him, I said I'm investing into a house and want my money back for what I had paid for the car. he says that wasn't the deal (yes it was as I had 2 other mates there being witnesses) he denies it.

He said he will lose out because I drove it for 6 months and now it has lost its value (why has it taken him 6 months to order my DC5?)
He now suggests that he takes the car back and try to sell it at the price I had paid him for and gives me a cheap courtesy 1L Polo to drive around!

Now my only choice is to sell this car for less than what I had paid for it and take it as a lesson learnt!

STAY CLEAR!

- Please can this be pinned as I don't want any other members on here to be conned.
 

Teg76

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I know this is an old topic but after reading what has happened to other people i thought i would share my experience with you guys of des ong.

I have known des since year 2001. I had my first problem in 2004 when i bought a dc2 from him. It was a great example with a few mods and low mileage. I had this from him after i paid him a deposit for a dc5 facelift and i would use this while i wait for delivery (probable 4 to 5 months). My problem arose after i registered the car in my name only to find a finance company ringing me up claiming outstanding finance on this vehicle. After contacting des he refused to clear account and as i knew they could not trace the car with him, and with him currently holding my deposit i chose to return it to him . Which was ok until he said he would give me £3k less than what i paid him , and he had no cash to give me so he paid me with a trailer and previously damaged dc2 , which were not worth any where near what he claims.

Disilusioned, i chose to persue the dc5 as i had paid a large deposit (stupid i now know). The wait went on forever. So a friend of mine with me bought a dc2 with no engine , bought a separate engine and in one last attempt to gain the trust of des ong gave it to him to fit with some mods. He did this for me or so i thought. Everything seemed ok until we were trying to sell the car and a buyer said the engine was not the one advertised!! By this point my dc5 was in des's garage and i had seen it. I had paid him more money to cover outstanding balance and registration fees. But this is where it ended. I had already paid him over £18k (we had previously agreed £15k) and i was not going to pay any more. He was not going to hand the car over so i had no choice but to take him to court. He did not show so i won. With fees plus interest he owed me over £25k!!!
Amazingly i did manage to get something back from him. Some cash £4k., an old evo 4 and a nissan figaro. He claims were worth a total of £17k?!
I managed to make aprox £12k after part ex the evo for a dc2, and part ex the figaro for a dc5 from andy at 200 bhp cars (he is a good dealer!).
I still have a county court judgement on des ong, but as he has nothing in his name i can not touch him.

I would be interested in seeing if anyone else knows him, and i wander if that dc5 that Jono P saw from the post above is actually MY CAR !!!
 

kahn_v

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Any pics of this guy? If anyone sees him at meets or anything then we can make him feel unwelcome????
 

dotty

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Any pics of this guy? If anyone sees him at meets or anything then we can make him feel unwelcome????


You aren't on the set of fast and furious you know.
 

kahn_v

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dotty said:
You aren't on the set of fast and furious you know.
i didnt even mean what your thinking. , i ment actually talking about this matter and making him feel uncomfortable at a meet.

same thing with I-tuned happened at mimms.
 
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