DC5 Recall Annoucement

MJ Type-R

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It came to my attention in December that the DC5 is subject to a recall in Japan, I have had to wait until I was able to get hold of the information before posting :idea:

Some Japanese Integra's (or RSX as its' otherwise known) are on a VIN list for potential steering rack centre tie rod bolts coming loose.

So far apparently only 6 cases have been reported.

Those effected vehicles are in the chassis range from:

DC5 10000018 to DC5 1010207 (mine is in this range :cry: )

If yours is effected, you need to have the torque of the two tie-rod mounting bracket bolts checked. These are located on the centre front of the steering gearbox (I will try to get a pic posted later or tomorrow). The torque value should be 69Nm.

Here is the bad news, if any loose bolts are detected the steering gearbox must be replaced :!: (I have yet to check on mine, fingers very crossed that it is ok)

Now, make sure you are sitting down, the estimated cost is £1000 :shock: for a new unit and that’s not including fitting :!:

Now we do have a problem here, as we own import vehicles, so technically we are not covered by any warranty, and Honda UK wont pay for any correction work. I need to get an idea as to how many cars might be affected, i.e. within the chassis range. I believe that the Plant in Japan should pay for the work, as it’s a manufacturing fault. As its steering related, I am hoping that Honda will reconsider, as it would not be good for the Honda name for someone to be involved in an accident here in the UK as a result. Hence before taking this further I need to get an idea of numbers. It would also be helpful, if you can check the torque values yourselves, then I can build up a picture if any racks here in the UK need replacing. I do have other contacts, so if we have to pay out of our own pockets, I might be able to get a bulk order of parts cheaper.

Sorry, but I thought we all had better be aware of this issue.

Mike
 

JOM

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Mike,

When you say that the steernig grearbox need replacing how urgent are you talknig about here?

My VIN is in that range and I am now paranoid and need to contact lacal Honda delearship.

I guess I am going to have to pay them even to check torque setting.

Any idea how difficult a job this could be?

Going to ring the garage now :?

James
 

Unnamed_warrior

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Hello mike..

My car is in that range and personally I think that every car that is imported to the UK and is an Y, 51 or 52 reg will be in that range mate.

Anyway I will get my nuts checked :wink:

Just wondered for those of us that have taken out a Honda Care Warranty.. aren't we covered for this work to be done????

UW
 

MJ Type-R

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Unnamed_warrior said:
Just wondered for those of us that have taken out a Honda Care Warranty.. aren't we covered for this work to be done????
I was wondering the same thing m8, can some one apart from me give Honda Call, to find out?

As to urgency, I think its best to be safe. As I said only 6 reported cases so fare. I have looked at the location of the bolts, they are not easy to get a torque wrench on!!

Rich, no PM mate

Mike
 

JOM

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Translated using Babelfish:

Recall of 4 models such as stream and CR-V(2003 November 20th it notifies)



Recall notification number 1009
Recall target date 2003 November 21st
Region of trouble (part name) Steering gear (steering gear box)
When there is a standard nonconformance state, the structure which is recognized, state and its cause of the device or efficiency Because bolt tightening attaching power of the bracket which installs the tie rod in the gear box of hydraulic type power steering is insufficient, when it finishes to place at the time of polar low speed of the garage inserting and the like, operates when particular volt/bolt becomes loose, continues use that way volt/bolt breaking, there are some where the bracket comes off from the gear box. Because of that, there is a possibility handling becoming impossible.

Contents of improvement measure
You inspect the tightening state of bracket attachment bolt, tighten and those where power is insufficient exchange the steering gear box with the non-defective item.
Measure because known fact it can point in the automobile user and the automobile overhaul enterprise User: It notifies with the direct mail.
Automobile overhaul enterprise: It publishes to the house organ of day integral rapid fire line.
Improvement execution end in the car, the sticker of No.1009 is stuck in corner under the rear windshield left.

Car name
Type
Alias name
Range and production period of under carriage number of object car
Quantity of object car


HONDA
LA-RN1
Stream RN1-1000014 - RN1-1055252
2000 October 12th - 2001 September 28th 55,239
RN1-1100001 - RN1-1129211
2001 September 28th - 2002 June 17th 29,211
RN1-5000001 - RN1-5000040
2002 January 22nd - 2002 May 23rd 40

LA-RN2 RN2-1000015 - RN2-1008455
2000 October 12th - 2001 October 2nd 8,441
RN2-1100001 - RN2-1103882
2001 October 1st - 2002 May 22nd 3,882
RN2-5000001 - RN2-5000008
2002 February 13th - 2002 May 15th 8

LA-RN3 RN3-1000016 - RN3-1057942
2000 October 12th - 2001 September 28th 57,927
RN3-1100003 - RN3-1114824
2001 September 28th - 2002 May 23rd 14,820
RN3-5000001 - RN3-5000026
2002 February 20th - 2002 May 22nd 26

LA-RN4 RN4-1000014 - RN4-1009677
2001 January 10th - 2001 September 27th 9,664
RN4-1100002 - RN4-1103235
2001 October 1st - 2002 May 24th 3,234
RN4-5000001 - RN4-5000006
2002 January 17th - 2002 April 11th 6
LA-RD4 CR-V RD4-1000010 - RD4-1004549
2001 September 5th - 2002 June 13th 4,540
LA-RD5 RD5-1000018 - RD5-1015437
2001 September 5th - 2002 May 22nd 15,420
LA-DC5 インテグラ DC5-1000018 - DC5-1010207
2001 June 14th - 2002 May 24th 10,190
LA-ES3 シビック
フェリオ
(Training car) ES3-8000001 - ES3-8000331
2001 March 9th - 2001 August 8th 331
ES3-8100001 - ES3-8100230
2001 October 24th - 2002 May 24th 230

(Total 8)
(Total 4 model)
(Entire range of production period)
2000 October 12th - 2002 June 17th
(Total 213,209)
 

CharlesW

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Mike,

My car's chassis no. is after DC5-1010207 so I guess my car is OK. About Hondacare I guess they will not cover it. When I was talking to them recently about warranties, I was told it only covered parts up to the cost of the equivalent UK Honda part. This presents a problem as there is no equivalent UK Honda, unless the Civic Type R uses the same steering gear.

I hope Honda UK are reasonable about this.

Rgds

Charles
 

AndyBITR

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B**ger me, I've only just got the car, and am reading this!! :shock:

Is this information available on the Honda Japan website?? (Even if it is in Japanese) It's just so I can start spouting something official to my local dealer to see what they say. :?

Mike, u did say something about going to Honda UK with this, so I suggest we start compiling a list of Cars & Owners, listing our VIN Number.
 

SJ_Skyline

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First off, don't panic :!:

Mike is keeping us informed of what information he has as and when he gets it. Please bear in mind - it is only 6 cars so far in 213000 :!:
 

Ali

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I'd be very surprised if a CTR unit couldn't be used. As they share practically everything else bar the body, springs, dampers and a handful of engine internals.

Also , if the UK CTR has a different steering box, it might still be used on the JDM CTR which is Swindon made anyway.

Hope it sorts itself out for everyone. Perhaps if teh UK DC5 decision is announced in the next month or so then it might make your case easier?
 

MJ Type-R

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Ali said:
I'd be very surprised if a CTR unit couldn't be used. As they share practically everything else bar the body, springs, dampers and a handful of engine internals.

Also , if the UK CTR has a different steering box, it might still be used on the JDM CTR which is Swindon made anyway.

Hope it sorts itself out for everyone. Perhaps if teh UK DC5 decision is announced in the next month or so then it might make your case easier?
One Big problem!! EP3 has an electric Power steering rack, the DC5 has a hydraulic one :!: :!:

Please, if Possible PM me with your name, VIN number if you are effected, then I can make a approach and get an outcome. We need to work together on this :idea:

Mike
 

Rob-DC2

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maybe a silly question but,Is it easy to get the bolt to get checked?

will honda charge silly price just to see if tight?

as this will tell if effected and need to take action.

Hope no body has any problems and we are all fine :D

Rob
 

MJ Type-R

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Rob,

I am going to try to check mine myself tomorrow, taking my car to a pit, so that I can work on some other things, so will try to check myself.

I will also, take some pics for people.

Anyone, whos currently purchasing one from an Import, please check the VIN number. If within range, insist the importer gets the car checked or walk away (I know this does not help current owners).

Mike
 

ps2london

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so far is only 6 out of 213000, i am not too worry for the moment!

thank you Milk to doing all this.

Franz
 

DC51VTC

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Hi Mike,

I too fall within the quoted VIN numbers. Will get torque settings checked and let you know. Like others, no need to panic. Controlled vigilance is what is required. Thanks for the detailed info btw.
 

Unnamed_warrior

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Hi ya mike

yeah cheers for getting all the info mate. Going to get my car checked next saturday and if it does have a problem then I will PM you my VIN.. Right now not bothered as my car is 2 years old and I am sure it has seen it's fair share of track days before coming to the UK, so if it was going to go it would of happened by now. And the fact that I thrash the pants off it almost all the time it seems fine to me :D

Will let you know the out come.
 

Erm

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mines in the range too :evil:

if someone tells me in detail where the nuts are i'll take the car to a garage to get em checked out
 

20Drift

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mike, thanks for the info.

mine is in the range too... :p will get it check next week
 
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