most powerfull na car on here ??

sydney

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Mine is now 260hp 173lftb with a map needed.

Gruppe m, rbc, toda mani, j's 60rs, kpro mapped by tdi north and needs done again.

Sorry for not adding in the chart above
 

jay82

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BC Engine Builds:

BUDDYCLUB TA2009-305bhp 212.6ft/lb after a bit of tweeking. still more to come in the midrange.(still on a single plenum). New 2009 engine,BC-ST2 cams with altered timing,BC Vernier pullies, BC Titanium caps,BC valve springs,BC Modified head,BC stainless valves,BC header,spec3 pro system,RBC,BC70mm Billet TB,Hondata,BC LONG RAM Alloy Induction kit.

JT3173 - 275.3 bhp 189 lb/ft tourque at TDi North, KPRO, BC Spec 3 cams, modded RBC, BC 70mm throttle body, BC prototype CAI, 550 RC injectors, 87.5mm pistons, BC Pro Spec exhaust, Toda Racing manifold.(engine by Buddyclub of course...)

That VTEC Grin - 275.0bhp 187 lb/ft torque, KPRO, BC N+ Cams, Gruppe-M, BC 70mm Throttle Body, BC modified RBC manifold, Omega Forged Pistons 12.5.1, Toda Racing Manifold, Toda Racing Exhaust, (engine by Buddyclub)

BUDDYCLUB TA2008 275.2 bhp 218 ft/lb, k-pro,BC sp3 cams,RBC,BC Induction ram,BC springs,BC tit caps,BC pulleys,BC header,BC Pro Spec system,BC 70mm TB,

BUDDYCLUB- 274bhp 201 ft/lb torque, 2050cc Try Before You Buy road demo,omega pistons, ,SP3 cams,bc springs,bc header,bc pulleys ,sp4 system,BC filter,K-pro,440cc injectors.


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K20A N/A Combinations with CAMS:

black teg - 273bhp 172 lb/ft torque K-pro, Toda A2 cams, RBC intake, Gruppe M CAI, Spoon T/B, Toda Manifold, Mugen Twinloop

Type R Kid - 272.4bhp 174lb/ft torque,Kpro,Buddyclub N+ Camshafts and P1 Racing Titanium valve and valve springs,RBC Intake Manifold and Hondata Gasket,Buddyclub throttle body,Group M Intake,AEM TRU Power Pulley,Buddyclub Manifold,Spoon B Pipe,Spoon N1 backbox All work done by UNIT 8

D@nCeR - 272.3 (186.4 lb/ft torque) GruppeM, Kpro, RBC intake+hondata gasket, Toda A3 Cams, J's Racing T/B, Toda Mani, Spoon B-Pipe,
Stevieg - 271.8Bhp / 185.6 lb-ft Torque (needs a tweek!) K-pro, Toda A3 Cams, RBC IM, Gruppe M, FGK RM01A Exhaust
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K20A - N/A Combinations without Cams:

Mikegsi - 262.2bhp, 181ft/lb torque. Toda mani, gruppem, rbc, spoon tb, kakimoto regu 06&r, hondata heatshield, earthing kit, grounding position moved, shiny bits
Zero7 - 262 (I think)
Davy 01cw5 - 261bhp 180lb/ft (proven)
monz - 261 (approx.)
LeeH 260.8bhp 179.7lb/ft TDi North 26/11/07 BC Spec IV, BC Mani, RBC Intake, GruppeM, KPRO, Spoon socks
C&S Evo 7 - 260.6
DC5Dub07 - 255.3BHP 169.9 lb/ft torque Ai Autosports NI - Kpro, Gruppe M, RBC, DC sports header, 5ziegen catback.
Rob84 - 254bhp, 172.9lb/ft - Unit 8 mapped, K-Pro, RBC with Hondata inlet gasket, Gruppe M, BC Pro Spec cat-back
jay82 - 253.3bhp (162.8 lb/ft torque) Ai Autosports 4/03/10 - Kpro, GM, RBC, DC sports header, mugen twinloop
Mark_teg - 253.2bhp (168 lb/ft) - Eightspeed 20/07/10 - Kpro, GruppeM, RBC with Hondata gasket, DC header, Spoon B-pipe, OEM Backbox
Neil_integra - 253hp (179lb/ft torque) 19.02.08 Kpro, Mugen manifold, mugen sports cat, mugen twinloop, AEM CAI, skimmed head, toda high compression head gasket, hondata intake manifold gasket, RBC intake + 440 injectors.
Lockwood77 - 252.9bhp (174.6 lb/ft), TDi North, 6/4/09 - GruppeM, J's TB, RBC, Hondata heatshield gasket, Toda exhaust manifold and cat-back
JCW - 252bhp (185.1 lb/ft torque) Kpro, GruppeM, Mugen Mani, Mugen exh, RBC, J's tb
Mikegsi - 251 (192 lb/ft torque too!!)
Turbo5 -250.9bhp (170.9lb/ft) Dasteck Mark @ unit 8. 4/5/10 Kpro, Gruppe M, Mugen manifold with Mugen sports cat, RBC intake, hondata heatshield gasket, Toda exhaust.
celox performance - 250 (178 lb/ft torque) Kpro, ITG Maxogen, BC Header, RBC
Jayk "DC5 3 - 250hp (177 lb/ft torque) - Fujita F5, Toda Mani, Supersprint B-pipe, OEM Back Box, KPRO
Zen1 - 250bhp (171.2 lb/ft torque) Kpro, GruppeM, Piper 4-2-1 Mani +sports cat J's 60RS Catback, RBC, Hondata Gasket, TDI North 14/12/09
BENNY 249.2 BHP (178 LB TORQUE) KPRO, RBC, DC SPORTS MANI, HKS SILENT CATBACK, AEM V2 AND THATS IT! NO MORE!
p_r_e - 248 (159 lb/ft torque)
Jayk DC5 2 - 248 (180 lb/ft torque) Gruppe-M, Toda Mani, Toda Exhaust, Kpro
webbie - 247 (199 lb/ft torque)
tron2k3 - 245.9 (175 lb/ft torque) KPro, GruppeM, Toda Mani, Toda Exh - TDi North 10/12/2007 Time:11:45:33
Integradan - 245.1bhp (165.8 lbft) Kpro, J's Racing CAI, DC Sports Mani, Unknown JDM Exhaust - TDi North (12.06.09)
The Mofo - 244.4 (170lb/ft torque) Kpro, Injen CAI, Toda Mani, Fujitsubo Legalis R cat back -
sydney- 242.7hp 223 whp (166lb/ft) proven. mugen n1 ecu, gruppe m, rbc with hondata heatshield, hks sparks, dc sports mani, j's racing exhaust (one that looks like toda)
TDI North 25/02/08
12T - 242.4 (170.3 lb/ft torque)
stoddie - 242.1 (164.8 lb/ft torque)japerformance. GruppeM, twin loop, rbc, maxim works manifold
milano_chris - 241.7 (170.4 lb/ft torque) KPro, GruppeM, Toda Mani, T1R 63mm cat-back - TDI North 18/10/07
Sinbad - 241.3 (171.7 lb/ft torque) Kpro, GruppeM, DC Mani, Apexi N1 - TDI North 02/11/07
BadBadtz - 241.2 (166 lb/ft torque)
linzi94 - 240.6 aem cai, full spoon n1
Newty: 240hp/168torque, TDI North 23/02/09...KPro, Toda Mani, BuddyClub Exhaust, GruppeM...
Jimmi27- 233.7 (170.5lbft) KPro, Mugen/5zigen, HKS cat back. System-R 2/5/2007
Gaz DC5 - 231.3 (168.3lbft Torque) TDI 11/9/09. Mugen N1 ECU, RBC inlet with Hondata Gasket, Spoon 4-2 & 2-1, ITG drop in filter
Newty - 230 (167.3 lb/ft), TDI North 25/6/08, KPro, Toda Mani, Powerflow CAT back, GruppeM...to follow, proper exhaust(!), RBC intake...more fidling!!!
Jayk "DC5 1- 225 (165 lb/ft torque) - K&N Panel Filter, Toda Mani, Spoon B Pipe
jay82 - 224.2hp (162.47 lb/ft torque) paul from tdi north at elite - Kpro, GM, RBC, mugen twinloop
Garytc78 - 224 (152 lb/ft ) - AEM V2 mugen twin loop awesome gti 27th Sep 2008
Gaz1- 222.8 (148.7 lb/ft torque)
Frank - 221 (156lb/ft torque)
Stuart_M - 220.3 (158.4lb/ft torque) DC Sports cat back. TDI 04/07
Dazza - 219.0(160.8 lb/ft torque)
gaz3434 - 218.2 (156.0 lb/ft torque) - stock except for Spoon drop-in filter!
RSX Type S - 215
 

eg9_dc2

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BC Engine Builds:

BUDDYCLUB TA2009-305bhp 212.6ft/lb after a bit of tweeking. still more to come in the midrange.(still on a single plenum). New 2009 engine,BC-ST2 cams with altered timing,BC Vernier pullies, BC Titanium caps,BC valve springs,BC Modified head,BC stainless valves,BC header,spec3 pro system,RBC,BC70mm Billet TB,Hondata,BC LONG RAM Alloy Induction kit.

JT3173 - 275.3 bhp 189 lb/ft tourque at TDi North, KPRO, BC Spec 3 cams, modded RBC, BC 70mm throttle body, BC prototype CAI, 550 RC injectors, 87.5mm pistons, BC Pro Spec exhaust, Toda Racing manifold.(engine by Buddyclub of course...)

That VTEC Grin - 275.0bhp 187 lb/ft torque, KPRO, BC N+ Cams, Gruppe-M, BC 70mm Throttle Body, BC modified RBC manifold, Omega Forged Pistons 12.5.1, Toda Racing Manifold, Toda Racing Exhaust, (engine by Buddyclub)

BUDDYCLUB TA2008 275.2 bhp 218 ft/lb, k-pro,BC sp3 cams,RBC,BC Induction ram,BC springs,BC tit caps,BC pulleys,BC header,BC Pro Spec system,BC 70mm TB,

BUDDYCLUB- 274bhp 201 ft/lb torque, 2050cc Try Before You Buy road demo,omega pistons, ,SP3 cams,bc springs,bc header,bc pulleys ,sp4 system,BC filter,K-pro,440cc injectors.



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the buddyclub TA car is using spec2 cams and still manages to make more power than the JT's car that is using Spec2's, even the buddyclub ta2008 is using spec 3 cams and still making less than the car with the stage 2 cams.....goes to show you dont have to have the most aggressive cam for the best figures? the mods are practically the same.....???

any opinions?


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blueguy

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What are you looking at mate?

TA 2009 car is using ST2 cams not spec 2's, they are very different.
 

paul hughes

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What are you looking at mate?

TA 2009 car is using ST2 cams not spec 2's, they are very different.

SPEC 1,2,3,N+ cams are fast road and track cams. around 265-275 bhp.

SUPER TOURING (ST) 1,2 are Touring car race use only.These are one off development cams not for sale exept Buddyclub Supported Race Teams. around 280-300 bhp.

hope this clears thing up but i have never explained this before :)
 

eg9_dc2

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What are you looking at mate?

TA 2009 car is using ST2 cams not spec 2's, they are very different.

sorry i was wrong....


iv been reading up on cams durations lifts ramp angle etc etc, skunk2 stage 2, and toda B, would they be suitable for the dc5 with stock internals but thinner headgasket to bump compression up abit....?

i know theres buddyclub etc etc but havnt read the specs on them yet, i do know toda spec A's which are like stage 1 are suitable but is it better to push the limit a little and go with the spec B/stage 2 camshaft.....stock compression is 11.5, ideally for stage 2 12cr is needed so a slight bump with a thinnher headgasket to 11.8 and a really goof tune, would it work well with a good figure or will i see a better figure with a stage 1 camshaft?

article

http://www.team-integra.net/forum/blogs/michaeldelaney/28-vtec-cams-specs-comparison-bseries-engines.html


does any 1 have the standard spec list ie duration/lift of the DC5 camshafts? iv tried searching couldnt find em.
 

C&S Evo7

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The problem with upping the compression is we dont really have fuel with a high enough octane rating readily available to get the benefits, so the engine has to be de tuned anyway, which is why almost the same gains can be acheived with an ep3 as a dc5 .when doing a kpro and normal breathing mods. (ep3- lower compression and less aggressive cams)

if we were to map with proper 100 ron +, then we can take real advantage of the higher compression and better gains will be acheived.

if you want a really fast car then a strokered k20 with much more torque will be a winner every time, forget a high revving motor ;-)

my advice, forget crazy cams for anything but a racecar.
 

paul hughes

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The Buddyclub N+ cams have been specifically designed with patented lobe forms to use in STD engines with a thin head gasket, they will give a solid 260-265bhp and bags more torque proven, and maybe more depending on dyno and other mods.they can be fitted with std pulley and are never far out due to the way they are datum set when ground. If you want that extra 1 or 2 bhp then fine just use an exhaust pulley, Our customers just fit and forget and have always commented on how pleased they are with them, obviously K-Pro is required. They run fine on 97 ron.no issues what so ever.
 

eg9_dc2

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i agree a stroked k20 would be faster, but, im a fan of the high rev range and aggressive cams.not because its better or anything.. its just personal preference, the buddyclub car just sounds awesome when its revving....

has no posted any results for stroker'd k20's/k24's with/without built heads.....?

the tracy sports dc5 in america had a k24 with a 8k rev limit, the jun hyper lemon car had a k20a with 10k or 9.5k rev limit...it was .1 of a second slower but when you watch the video.....the k24 looked like it was boring, it made power much easier and struggled less because of the extra torque etc BUT the JUN car looked like it was a hoot to drive!

****wondering if the k24 could have an increased rev limit (safely) with a better build head.

however the k24's responsiveness is less than the JUN car....theres a saying 'there no repalcement for displacement' but i dunno....if i wanted more torque and more displacement or that sort of 'lazier' rod/stroke ratio from a crazier stroke, i would have just bought a different car all together.

i will be looking at the buddyclub N+ cam specs.im not after too much power just the the right cam to unlock the right amount of power in the right powerband...cam characteristics/design play an important part too

are N+, toda spec b's/a3 or skunk2 stage 2 'crazy cams' for stock compression? am i better off with a stage 1 because i wont be un locking the potential of the stage 2 cams because of the fuel we have? or will i see still see the same gains with the same fuel and a slightly more aggressive cam than a stage 1? the stock rev limit is fine with me, i just want the higher rpms to be more aggressive and abit more gains in mid....stage 2 cams are generally like stage 1, but have a broader powerband....

my reasoning is stage 1 can be tuned just right for the k20a..so with stage 2 i should see the same gains as the stage 1 but still have unlocked potential there....??

N+ CAM specs look pretty good!

the vtec lobe is aggressive like the sp3, the primary and secondary are between sp1 and sp3. how is this cam better in performance than the sp3!?

the sp3 specs are much more aggressive all around.

do buddylcub advertise the cam duartion at 1mm lift or 0.5mm? or another figure?


the n+ cam looks like a slightly better cam than the toda a3 which sounds perfect but need to find out the cam ramp angles yet and at how much lift exactly the duration specs are taken at.
 

pulpmelon_r

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i agree a stroked k20 would be faster, but, im a fan of the high rev range and aggressive cams.not because its better or anything.. its just personal preference, the buddyclub car just sounds awesome when its revving....

has no posted any results for stroker'd k20's/k24's with/without built heads.....?

the tracy sports dc5 in america had a k24 with a 8k rev limit, the jun hyper lemon car had a k20a with 10k or 9.5k rev limit...it was .1 of a second slower but when you watch the video.....the k24 looked like it was boring, it made power much easier and struggled less because of the extra torque etc BUT the JUN car looked like it was a hoot to drive!

****wondering if the k24 could have an increased rev limit (safely) with a better build head.

however the k24's responsiveness is less than the JUN car....theres a saying 'there no repalcement for displacement' but i dunno....if i wanted more torque and more displacement or that sort of 'lazier' rod/stroke ratio from a crazier stroke, i would have just bought a different car all together.

i will be looking at the buddyclub N+ cam specs.im not after too much power just the the right cam to unlock the right amount of power in the right powerband...cam characteristics/design play an important part too

are N+, toda spec b's/a3 or skunk2 stage 2 'crazy cams' for stock compression? am i better off with a stage 1 because i wont be un locking the potential of the stage 2 cams because of the fuel we have? or will i see still see the same gains with the same fuel and a slightly more aggressive cam than a stage 1? the stock rev limit is fine with me, i just want the higher rpms to be more aggressive and abit more gains in mid....stage 2 cams are generally like stage 1, but have a broader powerband....

my reasoning is stage 1 can be tuned just right for the k20a..so with stage 2 i should see the same gains as the stage 1 but still have unlocked potential there....??

N+ CAM specs look pretty good!

the vtec lobe is aggressive like the sp3, the primary and secondary are between sp1 and sp3. how is this cam better in performance than the sp3!?

the sp3 specs are much more aggressive all around.

do buddylcub advertise the cam duartion at 1mm lift or 0.5mm? or another figure?


the n+ cam looks like a slightly better cam than the toda a3 which sounds perfect but need to find out the cam ramp angles yet and at how much lift exactly the duration specs are taken at.
Alot of people get funny when you talk about cams in stages, as its often a marketing led rather than technically led naming convention.

But some generalisations stand up no matter what brand, for example:

A stage one cam should work with stock valve train and compression, with slightly more lift on the vtec lobe. They tend to have less overlap to build dynamic CR and much bigger regular lobes for the extra midrange.

Stage 2's Require uprated valve train, might not be safe at 50 deg VTC, enjoy a bit more compression, won‘t work without all the other bolt on mods and a few 100 more RPM

Stage 3 and above are all about 12.5:1CR+ or extra displacement for example.
 

donzooo

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Anyone have any more cars to add?

I hope to achieve 240-250bhp this year.

K-Pro, Tegiwa Exhaust Manifold, RBC, Tegiwa Airbox, 2.5'' B-pipe, Spoon N1 backbox
 
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