2006 DC5 emissions test and model report

[ian.herm01]

I know this has been covered for 2001 to 2005 where there is a model report and there is a well trodden path for the ESVA test for importing. However, there is no model report for a 2006 DC5, this is due to the Euro 4 emissions law which effect imports after a manufacturing date of 31/12/05. There are no plans to produce a model report for 2006 DC-5. I spoke to modelreports.com today.

However, i noticed that there are a few import being sold as new models and are late 2006.

Any idea how these have been ESVA approved and passed the emissons test.

I assume these have been done as a single vehicle test which does not need a model report plus a sperate emissions test at a specialist test.

When i compare the expected emissions for CO , HC and NOx stated by Honda for the DC-5 they meet Euro 4 emission tests.

Can anyone please help? Thanks

 

[Duncs]

andy from 200 cars may pop along in a mo, but he let a 2006 car go because there is no model report, i have not seen a 2006 for sale so.

i suppose you can pay for a single test, an NSX goes through a similar thing, i did toy with it but never got as far as putting a cost to it, but rest assured it will not be cheap to do as there are only a couple of labs that can do the test.

 

[Torque-GT]

If the car was manufactured in Japan in 2005 but not registered until 2006, it could be registered in the UK in the same way. It would only have to be compliance tested as a 2005 car and therefore not need to comply with Euro 4.

Also the DVLA will let UK importers register cars as new over here in certain circumstances.

 

[Duncs]

so does that mean i could not import one as i am not a dealer

 

[ian.herm01]

I understand the 2005 rule, my question was how to get one through the esva test when it was manufactured in 2006, I assume this is the same as if you made a car yourself and had to get throught eh esva test. I personally can't see the diference, but i could be wrong.......

Any other thoughts?

 

[Torque-GT]

Sorry, I read your question as "How can people be selling DC5's registered on a 2006 plate?"

For a car manufactured in 2006, it would need to either:

Have a Model Report commisioned (Was speaking to someone yesterday who is considering doing it)

Be subject to a costly one off emmisions test.

Be a Personal Import.

If you would like to discuss this by phone, please call me on 01364 642810 during office hours (9am - 5 pm)

Mike.

 

[200BHPCARS]

Sorry, I read your question as "How can people be selling DC5's registered on a 2006 plate?"

For a car manufactured in 2006, it would need to either:

Have a Model Report commisioned (Was speaking to someone yesterday who is considering doing it)

Be subject to a costly one off emmisions test.

Be a Personal Import.

If you would like to discuss this by phone, please call me on 01364 642810 during office hours (9am - 5 pm)

Mike.

Hi Ian,

As previously addressed - If the car was manufactured after 31/12/2005 then you would have to take a risk in bringing the car in to pass a one off emmisons test - Probable cost = 1000-1750 pounds on top of normal costs.

It should pass, but you wont be able to guaruntee it before purchasing the car in Japan. I tried getting ahold off emmsions details on the DC5 from Japan, however they are non comparable. Only way to do it and know for sure would be to take a gamble and bring on to the UK,

As for waiting for a model report company to do a model report. I think its unlikely.

Hope this helps mate,

Andy
200bhpcars.com

 

[ian.herm01]

Andy,

Thanks for the info, actually i found the emissions from the DC-5 and compared it with the euro IV emissions tets, it should pass, the emissions are inside the limits of the euro iv. Hum, maybe its too much of a gamble and high cost. And what happenbs if it dosen't pass your left with a car you can't register or sell :roll:

I'm still think about it though, there is a company in southampton who do one off emission test.

I spoke to model report, there are no plans to do a 2006 report, there is not the volume to support it.

 

[ian.herm01]

Andy, i has to wait to get to work for the Japanes published emissions for the DC-5 k20A

CO - 0.67 gm/km
HC - 0.04 gm/km
NOx - 0.04 gm/km


the limits are 1.0, 0.1 and 0.08 respectively.

 

[200BHPCARS]

Andy, i has to wait to get to work for the Japanes published emissions for the DC-5 k20A

CO - 0.67 gm/km
HC - 0.04 gm/km
NOx - 0.04 gm/km


the limits are 1.0, 0.1 and 0.08 respectively.

Hi Ian, Nice one -

Only problem is that the Japanese do not test in the same manor as we do in the UK - I think they Rev the engine higher here in the UK during the test, and also its possible that they Japanese only do the test once the engine is warm - where as in the UK they do it from Cold which could effect the readings.

Still, you seem very persistent in finding out if this is possible - and for that reason im sure you will succeed in finding out if its possible one way or another.

Please compare those C/o levels etc that you quoted above and compare them with the levels required to pass EURO４

 

[andyd]

What about putting a EP3 mainfold on the car?

Surely that would bring the emissions in to line, well just for the ESVA

Andy

 

[sh33n]

What about putting a EP3 mainfold on the car?

Surely that would bring the emissions in to line, well just for the ESVA

Andy

Surely then you'd also need K-Pro in order to adjust for the manifold change?

I'm sure it would pass as is anyway, from what Ian is saying, but really is it worth it for a car which is ~6 months newer and a lot more cash?

Just get a low mileage, mint 2005 model

 

[ian.herm01]

I will resign myself to looking for a late 2005 model. The costs of the tests are high, it is £1000 just for the emission and noise test. You will need to add the ESVA test on top of that.

The emissions are tested warm and with japanese fuel.........There fuel is different as well. Seems a risk to far!

thanks for the discussion

 

[DC5Joe]

Hi guys, I'm reading this post with some interest, as I have a 2006(spec, but built in 2005) model DC5 sitting in my garage which I attempted to SVA yesterday, but was refused due to the model report being for the mk1 version. The guy that was doing the test gave it a quick look over also, and told me that the standard factory HID's would also fail due to lack of washer jets lol. So I would be keen to know of anyone who can supply me with a model report for 2006 DC5, or I will have an expensive track car.
On the way hom with no reg plates, and a single trade plate on the front windscreen, I was pulled over by the local unmarked police car! Suprisingly, the officers had never seen a DC5 and wanted to know what they were about, performance figures and BHP output etc. ... doing a bit of research to see if they can keep up? :lol:

 

[Duncs]

there is no model report for the 2006 DC5,
if you want one then you will have to have one done, there is obviously one for the face lift, but i think it was based on the car being manufactured before DEC 2005.
and yes the HiDs fail the ESVA,

 

[DC5Joe]

Thanks for the reply Dunk, do you think it's possible to bypass the HiD ballasts and put normal bulbs in for the SVA test?
Also, can you point me in the direction for the model report for facelift DC5, any help to get this car on the road is much appreciated.

Joe.

 

[Evs]

do you think it's possible to bypass the HiD ballasts and put normal bulbs in for the SVA test?
Also, can you point me in the direction for the model report for facelift DC5

The HID swap must be possible as there are loads of us driving round with HID-equipped cars that have been through SVA. I don't know the detail of how it's done though.

Model report info on the VOSA site here:
http://www.vosa.gov.uk/vosacorp/reposit ... 20List.pdf

You want the one for chassis code ABA-DC5 as that includes the facelift. I say 'includes' because mine is a late pre-facelift and has that code, and I had a load of hassle getting it in because there wasn't a model report at the time. I think it was added to the list to get mine through.

Hope that helps. Interesting thread btw 8)

 

[DC5Joe]

Thank for the info Evs, infact, the SVA was going smoothly at the start for about 10 minutes, when the tester spotted the chassis code didn't match up with the report(ABA-DC5) on the blue plaque.
The car I have was apparently made late 2005, so should qualify for the facelift model report.
Fingers crossed then , thanks for the info... great forum also! :wink:

 

[Duncs]

you deal with the Hids as described, not difficult to do but time consuming,
other things to look for
depends where you are doing the ESVA, mine was tight in southampton so i had to fit the
airbag sticker, tyres had to be load marked, fitted with a certified alarm/immob by a certified fitter

 

[ian.herm01]

If you visit modelreports.com, you will see that it states that all cars upto end of 2005 are ok, the only problem is the emissions law change - hence the exclusion of cars manufactured in 2006.

Also speak to them they are very helpful. The HID conversion can be done, often they are put back in after the esva test!