All the differences between pre facelift and facelift?

[leejw87]

I never used to be a fan of the facelifts but after seeing blueguys Dc5 they do look very nice, they look more sleek IMO.

 

[rascal69]

I just like the headlights better. Lol

 

[Vindots]

prefacelift looks more aggressive imo, facelift looks like civic?
but yes, gearbox ratio is better. i've watched that 20min video (best motoring international) comparing pre-facelift and facelift.

 

[m1ke]

Where is the video dude?

I went for a facelift because they look much more modern, the black strip is soon sorted with a Mugen rear lip.

 

[kingston]

Bmi vids are fixed

 

[C&S Evo7]

gearboxes are the same, ratios are not different.

 

[m1ke]

You sure? I've read it in a few places, the final drive is different.

 

[blueguy]

Final drive is the same mate.

 

[C&S Evo7]

yep, same part number.

 

[Modmedia]

From a purely cosmetic point of view I think the Pre Facelift is the better looking car!

 

[Turbosnatch]

I have a dc5 facelift gearbox in the garage but it has a different code than my PFL gearbox. Are the ratios different?

 

[Turbosnatch]

They DO have different ratios

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=k7GDQ_kxnoY#t=22

 

[wj51fut]

Isn't fourth gear different? Longer or something?

 

[Turbosnatch]

Shorter Final drive

 

[blueguy]

Tom has taken out my final drive and it's the same as the pre-facelift.

You'd be hard pressed to find anyone in the UK that has built and rebuilt more DC5 boxes than Tom.
With all due respect, calculating gear ratios by building gear boxes is accurate. Looking at BMI videos is not.

 

[C&S Evo7]

gearboxes are the same, ratios are not different.

as previously stated, Gearboxes are the same, the ratios are not different.

 

[Turbosnatch]

I have read in a few diferent places that the ratios are different and even in the video i posted the jap's at BMI state it has different ratios and demonstrates this in the mid part of the video, It's a long but good watch.

I am yet to find proof on paper though that the ratios are in fact different

Blueguy I do agree but if it only a minor difference in say maybe forth, would the builder have noticed?

Im determined to find something on paper whether it be the same or not

 

[blueguy]

To calculate ratios when building/re-building different spec boxes he would need to know the number of teeth of each gear so it's not something you should miss.

Good luck in your quest to find something definitive on paper though