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aself66

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Just ordered a toda manifold :lol: whats all this biz about the joint cracking? will a torque damper protect against this?
 

Zero7

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Would the engine mounts not cause more stiffness hence making it easier for the mani to crack :?:
 

dobber

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Ive got a 5Zigen engine torque damper for sale if you want it?

If i dont reply its because im off on my holls tomorrow morning :)
 

Evs

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Zero7 said:
Would the engine mounts not cause more stiffness
Yes

Zero7 said:
hence making it easier for the mani to crack :?:
No. One of the reasons they crack is due to the engine/gearbox assembly rotating from torque reaction under acceleration and on overrun. This stresses the manifold as one end of it is bolted to the head (which moves relative to the car), the other end is held by the mountings to the underbody and the rest of the exhaust (which doesn't move, or at least not as much). MMIs/ETDs reduce the movement of the engine/gearbox assembly which reduces the stress on the manifold. HTH?
 

Evs

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Glad to help mate. Just had them fitted myself - some views in this thread. There are a few pros and cons, basically more responsiveness, less risk of cracking the mani, but more harshness. You pays your money...
 

andyd

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There are a few opinion for engine mounts.

ES ones £25
Enjos £250 ish
Mugen £200 ish

Andy
 

dan the man

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so isnt there a movable joint then?? flexy job..

and what about the standard header? just so thick that it dont crack?

dan :|
 

Evs

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dan the man said:
so isnt there a movable joint then?? flexy job..

and what about the standard header? just so thick that it dont crack?

dan :|
Yes both the OEM and aftermarket (Spoon/Toda) have flexi joints.

OEM kit looks like this - it might not flow too well, but at least it's heavy...





OK I'm bored of a Sunday morning waiting for the delayed Spa GP2 race and it's raining so I can't polish the car... :oops: :?
 

mikegsi

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dobber said:
Ive got a 5Zigen engine torque damper for sale if you want it?

If i dont reply its because im off on my holls tomorrow morning :)
pm sent
 
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