it's not the 2-1 that "ticks" it's the 4-2 manifold. And at first it sounds odd but you'll be used to it in days mate and once in vtec you can't really hear it, especially if you have induction
Evs - not sure what the rolleyes was for - it was a genuine question after someone above mentioned it was an issue to them!
Not impressed with Spoon after ringing 2 days in a row now. Monday I rang twice and was told the guy I wanted was busy. Rang today and was put on hold for over 5 minutes - gave up. Great service!
I only had the 2-1 sectioin on a stock 4-2 and it sounded like water was washing through it to me when opening the throttle.
As a side note. When I had my MOT done recently and I had to drive with the stock header on, it felt like was driving a stock car again. All the power I had with my Toda had gone. Just shows how much work the Toda is doing for me.
Thread tangent here - just how lean would I be running with the Spoon 4-2 with no ECU adapatation but with the standard 2-1 and CAT?
Dangerously?
PS - Mark, Evs is a grumpy old man... Just like Victor Meldrew but he is also the oracle of this forum so you'll have to bite your lip at his constant use of this emoticon:
Difficult to say how lean, I personally wouldn't run an aftermarket manifold without doing the ECU. But then maybe I'm risk averse in that respect - I just don't think it's worth risking an expensive engine for the sake of a few bhp gain. :idea:
Search for 'spoon AND ticking' finds you five threads, here are two of them which discuss exactly the same issue. One actually has the keywords in the title.
There are too many DC5s zipping around running very lean with headers unwittingly fitted by their owners without a proper ECU. Unichip is no solution either.
I think I may buy the Supersprint pipe from Unit-8. Stevie reckons it'll fit and it's the same boar as standard (so no probs with grazing it) but without the silencer restriction. Quality was a reservation I had but I've heard decent reports about the pipe from EP3 owners.
Is the running lean thing for real? I can quite see how it could happen in theory (although rarer on N/A cars) but I cant see any conclusive proof from dyno charts or anything?
What sort of AFR's were being seen with breathing mods?