Nitrogen...

boz5r

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hi just wondering does anyone here use nitrogen to fill there tyre's or is it too much hassle ?
 

Modmedia

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Yes, but only because I get it done free now.

Don't notice any difference to be honest when I'm checking my tyre pressures so yeah, worthwhile I suppose but I wouldn't pay for it.
 

PORTHOS

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Lol, I had mine filled up today with Nitrogen. They used a proper big machine that does the mentioned below...

Taken from:http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/how-to/repair-questions/4302788


[SIZE=11pt]Q: Is there any advantage to using nitrogen instead of compressed air in tires? Will I notice improved fuel economy or a smoother ride? Will my tires last longer?[/SIZE]

[SIZE=11pt]A:[/SIZE] Sort of. From the top: Air is 78 percent nitrogen, just under 21 percent oxygen, and the rest is water vapor, CO2 and small concentrations of noble gases such as neon and argon. We can ignore the other gases.

There are several compelling reasons to use pure nitrogen in tires.

First is that nitrogen is less likely to migrate through tire rubber than is oxygen, which means that your tire pressures will remain more stable over the long term. Racers figured out pretty quickly that tires filled with nitrogen rather than air also exhibit less pressure change with temperature swings. That means more consistent inflation pressures during a race as the tires heat up. And when you're tweaking a race car's handling with half-psi changes, that's important.

Passenger cars can also benefit from the more stable pressures. But there's more: Humidity (water) is a Bad Thing to have inside a tire. Water, present as a vapor or even as a liquid in a tire, causes more of a pressure change with temperature swings than dry air does. It also promotes corrosion of the steel or aluminum rim.

If I ever need to top off a tire when I'm out on the road, I'll always briefly depress the tire chuck's valve with my thumbnail and vent some air. If my thumb gets wet, there's water in the line. Some gas stations don't do a very good job of keeping the humidity out of their air system. I don't even like to use a water-based tire-mounting lubricant unless I can let the tire bake in the sun for a couple of hours before I air it up and seat the bead. I've dismounted tires (not mine) that had several quarts of water inside—probably from a compressed-air hose that collected water and was never purged properly.

How is water relevant to a nitrogen discussion? Any system that delivers pure nitrogen is also going to deliver dry nitrogen. Filling tires with nitrogen involves filling and purging several times in succession, serially diluting the concentration of oxygen in the tire. This will also remove any water.

It's certainly simple, although time-consuming, for a tire technician to fill and bleed tires. But most shops use a machine that not only generates almost pure nitrogen by straining the oxygen out of shop-compressed air, but will also automatically go through several purge cycles unattended. Some shops have been charging as much as $30 per tire for this service. I think that's too much. If you're buying a new tire, it should be far less. Still, the nitrogen generator, filling system and technician's time aren't free—the dealer is entitled to some return for that.

So, to answer your specific questions: With nitrogen, your tire pressures will remain more constant, saving you a small amount in fuel and tire-maintenance costs. There will be less moisture inside your tires, meaning less corrosion on your wheels. You will not be able to feel any difference in the ride or handling or braking, unless your tire pressures were seriously out of spec and changing to nitrogen brought them back to the proper numbers.

Read more: Nitrogen vs Air In Tires - Why Nitrogen in Tires - Popular Mechanics
 

Dan34

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I have been tempted to get mine filled with it just to make use of the two valves lol.

 

Brockstar89

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Dan34 said:
I have been tempted to get mine filled with it just to make use of the two valves lol.

How does the 2 valves work?

One to feed and the other to release so you can purge all the air out with nitrogen?

Must say but, looks pretty cool as well.
 

jambo

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if your going to use nitrogen properly then you need 2 valves. Most race spec wheels etc run dual valves. My 949 racing wheels have these aswell.
 

Steve_DC5

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i use it... purely because its free.
Otherwise i would just use air, considering on trackdays i am letting pressures down then pumping air back in for the drive home lol
 
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