Pracworks Carbon Intake Manifold

Chewy

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Evening all!

Just browsing through car parts, dreaming away at all the shiny things I can't afford, as you do... and I stumbled across this new Carbon Intake Manifold produced by a company called Pracworks based in Malaysia

Not seen anything like this made for the K series before (Out of carbon anyway), It really is great to this day still finding companies developing new parts for our powerplants :twisted:

Stolen the pictures and description from their Facebook page as I couldn't not share this....Look how beautiful they are!!! (I've not had this tingling feeling in my nether regions since Titan released their Carbon trumpet ITB's :ph34r: :shock: ) Haha.


'PracWorks Carbon Intake Manifold for Honda K-series is finally out. An Intake Manifold that outperforms Honda Civic Type R RRC intake manifold. Check out back to back Dyno graph.
Price : USD1150 / RM 4,800 (Approx £870)
•Dry Carbon Construction
•Elliptical Carbon Bell Design
•Billet 6061-T6 flanges
•6 liter plenum volume
•Fits without Relocating Power steering pump.
•Choice of PRB/PRC or RBC/RRC bolt pattern
•Dyno tested to make 10-15hp gains'

Pracworks1 by Lewis Needham, on Flickr

Pracworks2 by Lewis Needham, on Flickr

Pracworks3 by Lewis Needham, on Flickr

Pracworks4 by Lewis Needham, on Flickr

Pracworks5 by Lewis Needham, on Flickr

Pracworks6 by Lewis Needham, on Flickr

Pracworks7 by Lewis Needham, on Flickr

Pracworks8 by Lewis Needham, on Flickr

Pracworks9 by Lewis Needham, on Flickr

Pracworks10 by Lewis Needham, on Flickr

Pracworks11 by Lewis Needham, on Flickr

Pracworks12 by Lewis Needham, on Flickr

Stunning aren't they!

Looks like Pracworks might be one to keep an eye on as they've got a few interesting projects in the pipeline.

Pracworks13 by Lewis Needham, on Flickr

Excited to see how this pans out and what other products they develop...
 
mike.williams

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I follow a malaysian tuning shop on IG called DNT-tune

The intake alone is netting an extra 10hp on a couple of k20a euroR 's
 
spooke

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Looks incredible, but for that cost are ITB's a better choice? or would these be more practical (less hassle? smoother drive?)
 
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In all honesty it looks like a showcase of the companies capability of manufacturing rather than an actual manifold designed by people who know a thing or two about intake design.
I bet it doesn‘t weigh much though!
 
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Mudgey said:
In all honesty it looks like a showcase of the companies capability of manufacturing rather than an actual manifold designed by people who know a thing or two about intake design.
I bet it doesn‘t weigh much though!
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Yeah, you'd probably get similar if not better gains from headwork for a similar price.
 
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Mudgey said:
In all honesty it looks like a showcase of the companies capability of manufacturing rather than an actual manifold designed by people who know a thing or two about intake design.
I bet it doesn‘t weigh much though!
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I think you're bang on the money here in terms of it being a showcase piece due to the materials used, etc... but I'd have thought quite a bit of research has gone into this, you don't just throw a inlet manifold together and it just so happens to out perform a RRC. haha.

Granted this is all based on the data provided by the manufacturer themselves, which without knowing the full specification of the test vehicle you just have to take their word for it.

One interesting aspect of it was the design for me is the runners allowing the Pracworks unit to be installed with the OEM PAS, if you look at a conventional RBC/RRC the runners are all positioned as straight as possible from the plenum to the cylinder, as opposed to the Pracworks runners for cylinder 1/2 closest to the PAS are curves and not in equal length to the others meaning the are flow won't be the same to each cylinder, I'd assume this is combated by the way the air resonance behaves inside the plenum... All a little too technical for me, but interesting none the less as i'd assume the runner design would hinder performance.
 
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Looks really nice (would look nicer if the red bits were in a choice of colours, Blue, Yellow etc or in matte black).

Would be interesting to see one of these fitted and know how it performs in the real world on a real world car
 
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spooke said:
Looks incredible, but for that cost are ITB's a better choice? or would these be more practical (less hassle? smoother drive?)
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It's a difficult one.

In terms of performance figures, a well sorted IM vs ITB's, the ITB's will perform marginally better throughout, I have no doubt about that...But we're talking about N/A tuning here, so the real world differences I believe would be negligible to an extent. Yes with ITB's you're getting the noise and throttle response to boot, but as you've rightly suggested they're more hassle to tune/setup and real world driveability is somewhat compromised as they're not as smooth and forgiving as a conventional setup on a daily drive.

In terms of costs, New vs new, depending on the brand of ITB's you go for, on average a drive in and drive out solution would be approximately £3000 (compromising, ITBS, filter, TPS, etc).

Now for the Pracworks, I'd think for Joe Bloggs to purchase one, after shipping and import fees you'll be looking at roughly £1200 for the IM, add fitting and mapping you'd probably be looking at £500 (Drive in, drive out) so £1700, then you'd need upgraded air intake and the option of upgrading the TB while you're at it so there's another £800-£1000 depending on brand etc... so all in you're looking somewhere between £2500-2700.

I suppose at this point you have to ask yourself, is some carbon bling in the bay and +10bhp over a RBC really worth £800 without any change in noise characteristics and increased throttle response over a conventional RBC setup? Then the same thing could be said for ITB's, are they really £1200 more for those additional factors?

Excluding mapping/fitting costs and assuming the cars have similar modifications (Exhaust manifold, air intake, etc) and you're only changing the IM the costs and potential gains would look something like this;

RBC/RRC - £400-500 - 230/235bhp
Pracworks Carbon/Ktuned - £1000-1200 - 240/245bhp
ITB's - £1700 - 250/255bhp.

(Don't shoot me on my rough BHP estimations just because your dad's, cousin's, sistser's lover made 247bhp with a PRC on bread rollers in his EP2).

I think at the end of the day, there is no 'best' it all boils down to the individual requirements, does Steve who sits in stop/start traffic Monday to Friday and does a track day once a month want to be running ITB's? Is a race team going to overlook throttle response and a potential torque advantage of ITB's when a Pracworks IM will outperform a RRC but is £700 cheaper than ITB solution?

If you want the best performance and don't care about anything else you're going to buy ITB's.
If you're on a budget and just want some more ponies but want to retain the OEM drivability you're going to buy a RBC/RRC.
If you're wanting increased power and want something pretty in the bay that won't affect drivavbility you're going to buy the Pracworks Carbon IM.

Sorry for the long post, haha.... You could go on for hours about this sort of think. Would be better to discuss this sort of thing over a pint or 8... :xgrin:
 
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Dude I have to say awesome post :D and I agree with everything you've said. I spoke to the guys at Pracworks and they said you need 410CC injectors too but other than that it is bolt on.
 
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Pasty said:
That is pure porn.... something i would be stupid enough to invest in
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Seeing as you're keeping yours again now and following on with the turbo build, sack the Skunk2 Ultra IM off and get your hands on one of these bad boys! :twisted:
 
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Chewy said:
Seeing as you're keeping yours again now and following on with the turbo build, sack the Skunk2 Ultra IM off and get your hands on one of these bad boys! :twisted:
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Hmmmmm it would be sick... simular bloody price

EDIT: In actuall FACT my skunk2 ultra center feed is MORE than this!!!!
 
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