Selling?

[Midnight]

Just after a few opinions.

Thinking about selling the car, my question is: is it really worth splitting?

Obviously with the FD it would shorten the people interested. But let's be honest, people don't really look to purchase a DC5 to do 500 miles a week up and down the motorway.

While splitting would ultimately offer more ££££ but then you have the car and parts to sell. Anyone sold their car and parts lately offer input? Was it worth the extra ££££ when you consider cost of swapping over, cost of replacing the actual part and time.

What would you do and why?

Can we try and keep it on topic 😂

 

[Chrismartin]

Deffo split with the amount you've put in!

Most of the parts I replaced when I sold mine was worth the effort. You may not bother with the FD for obvious reasons. How come the change?

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[Midnight]

Well still have the OEM FD and gears as well as many other parts but by time you put labour for removing and replacing parts is it worth it?

Been having thoughts for month or two now, keep spending on it 'trying' to fall in love when ultimately getting further away 👎🏼

 

[SamDC5]

Put it back to street spec and go enjoy B roads

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[Midnight]

Put it back to street spec and go enjoy B roads

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This was a thought, however I know soon as parts removed that it would be gone. Going to have a serious think over the Christmas break.

 

[SamDC5]

See how you feel mate, you're never going to cherish or love a track car. While mine's still relatively OEM spec, going for a blast round B-roads at the weekends in summer is what mine was all about for me. It's very difficult to mix a road car with a track car as you end up sacrificing the road capabilities as we had a good chat about haha.

Might be worth switching to a softer suspension set up and using it more on the road and coming to a few meets with us next year?

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[SamDC5]

Mine is going be exactly where I want it next year, I'm no track addict, I'd rather go driving up in the peak district and on the twisties. Mine never fails to put a massive smile on my face every time I drive it. ☺

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[Johngreen537]

Mine was 100% stripped and I sold every nut and bolt within 3 weeks. I was asking sensible money though, not jdm tax prices. Still cleared 10k in parts, but kept all mods for its replacement.

Chris returned his to standard then sold the car. Think I took most of his toys from his car.

If you've got all the standard parts then I would do that. If not then just break it.

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[nails]

Personally I would try and sell the car as is first as it is less hassle for you that way. This is definitely not a good time of year to be trying to sell a car though, I would wait until spring.

After always wanting a DC5 I sold mine a few months back after only 3 months of ownership, seems a common theme with these cars.

 

[Indi]

If you plan on doing most of the labour yourself then definitely worth stripping back to stock but if you're going to be paying a garage to do it then I'd try sell as it is first as the labour soon starts to add up especially for gearbox work etc. I did most of the work on mine myself when I put mine back to stock but I had the Plated LSD and charger removed by specialist and even then the labour deducted away quite a bit of profit so I can only imagine how much it would of cost if I was to get a garage to remove all the mods.

 

[Darren4]

Defo split and sell the car parts separate. Selling mods is quite quick especially if they are rare stuff. Some stuff like baffled slumps diffs etc to me is not worth the garage fees to strip down then sell ect.

What car you getting next?

 

[Midnight]

Thanks for the replies lads.

Not sure in truth, maybe another JDM Subaru or Evo. Not entirely sure. Common sense says something German but that little boy inside still says Japanese! Going to have a think and chat with brother over festive break.

 

[carl hammond]

Depending on the level of modifications on the car and the restriction to remove and swap things personally would determine the value of returning it to stock as best you can vs leaving it as is or going part the way. This car is a very good example which has ha da lot done to it in a short period of time and will sell eitherway imo.

I would say do all the things you can for as cheap as you can removal and replacement wise to re-coup as much money as you can, but if a job is big (e,.g the final drive etc) and will end up costing you a fair bit in labour etc for the swap then I don't think you'd recoup enough money to justify the time and money involved in such.

There are many small decent things you can remove and sell on for a bit of cash back so to speak and luckily you have done one thing perfectly, kept it looking pretty oem which is a key thing as these look great in oem form and many prefer them that way.

 

[MilanoChris]

Definitely strip, I had zero interest when mine was modded. It's not like an Evo where most people don't seem to care.

Personally, I think you've done too many modifications in a short space of time, some of the mods I would say weren't needed or you got the wrong parts which has tainted your ownership experience.

 

[GIBLETS]

Definitely strip, I had zero interest when mine was modded. It's not like an Evo where most people don't seem to care.

Personally, I think you've done too many modifications in a short space of time, some of the mods I would say weren't needed or you got the wrong parts which has tainted your ownership experience.

I was just about to write the same Chris.

IMO you‘ve gone too far too fast, maybe scale things back a bit, get the geometry set to something more tame and use the car daily and get to know it, you may then appreciate it more.

I‘m purposely slowly modifying mine in order to enjoy the experience along the way, I‘ll be stopping this summer as I think the car will be at equilibrium with mods vs usability and value for money, beyond that it‘ll be a rotrex kit if I can convince myself that it doesn‘t detract too much from what the car is all about.

Definitely back to standard for a sale though, I‘ll take the Hondata if you do too 😝.

 

[Midnight]

Possibly however if it's done over 6 month or 6 years the end result would be the same. All it really does it take the monthly spending down.

DC5 is, was always a car we wanted to own. It's superb! Looks great and handles amazing. Superb tool for the right occasion.

But for sure it'll be up for sale in the new year. If not already sold by then.

 

[MilanoChris]

I disagree with doing everything at once. You should really try the car and see where the downsides are for your particular use (daily, weekend car, track car etc) and then modify with proven items to improve that area. Then get used to it again and so on and so forth. Throwing on a load of mods within a short space of time dramatically alters the car's characteristics and not always in a good way.

If you do too many things within a short space of time, you don't really know which items have made it better or worse. Yours, from what I gather, is predominantly a track car, so you should focus on brakes, tyres and suspension and leave everything else standard. I never bothered changing roll bars for example, because I never felt as if the standard items were not performing well enough.

The biggest gains are brakes and suspension. The standard braking setup is weak, sure you can get away with better pads and discs but nothing will be as good as a properly engineered BBK with decent pads. Suspension wise, there are huge improvements to be made by increasing front castor. Those areas should focussed on before even thinking about increasing power. Kevin85's DC5 is nigh on standard power wise and my DC5 had a good 20 odd bhp peak over his car. Yet we were nearly neck on neck on most circuits in the faster sections, sometimes he'd be pulling away as he had a superior suspension setup (and most likely driving skills) so his exit speeds from corners was higher than mine.

It's the reason why I haven't thrown a load of mods on the FD2. I want to learn the car and get the most out of it, then slowly over time improve areas where I feel the standard setup is letting me down.

Horses for courses though, that's just how I feel after having these sorts of cars for nearly 15 years and getting more involved with track work over the past 4.

 

[carl hammond]

I disagree with doing everything at once. You should really try the car and see where the downsides are for your particular use (daily, weekend car, track car etc) and then modify with proven items to improve that area. Then get used to it again and so on and so forth. Throwing on a load of mods within a short space of time dramatically alters the car's characteristics and not always in a good way.

The biggest gains are brakes and suspension. The standard braking setup is weak, sure you can get away with better pads and discs but nothing will be as good as a properly engineered BBK with decent pads. Suspension wise, there are huge improvements to be made by increasing front castor. Those areas should focussed on before even thinking about increasing power.

I full get this myself and it's part the reason I have over the year of owning my car only gone with changes that make it safe and usable both on the road and track and will improve the car until I find a fault or feel something's not living up to expectations.

I have Bilstein B16's sitting at home waiting to go on but I am currently 50/50 as to whether I want them now as I have no idea whether or not they will be a lot better than my current Mugen Showa and Spoon setup. The car as it is has not been put on track once so I don't know how this will perform or feel, whereas I know the Bilsteins will give me a mix of options and Tom at TGM recommends me fitting them and getting it setup as then it's got everything required apart from a BBNK (if I was to ever need such).

I have tried to keep my mods to safe ones to make it usable and safe on track and simple upgrades using high-end parts, the one thing I have avoided is buying a RRC or RBC as I think I would benefit more form a 5.1 or 5.3 fd over an inlet manifold, not for power but for outright performance and by making the power even more usable.

 

[Midnight]

I disagree Chris.

The car has only improved and only enhanced what the car is about. Yes modifications made it more focused for fast road / track. I don't see what doing it over 6 months or 6 years makes a difference in terms of improving the car.

Suspension and brakes were altered via Area MS knowledge. Are you saying there knowledge isn't to be trusted because we didn't spend over a 5 year period.

I actually understand what you are saying but think it's a flawed way of looking at it.

If you'd have said spend over a period and enjoy each part I'd agree but do not agree with the whole 'because you can see what each part improves/alters' debate 👍🏼

 

[carl hammond]

If you'd have said spend over a period and enjoy each part I'd agree but do not agree with the whole 'because you can see what each part improves/alters' debate

I think this is what he meant, buy, enjoy, learn the car, then add more as you go over time. This is what I agree with, but sometimes if a car needs something then you have no alternative but to make changes prior to planned etc.

But then again sometimes deep down you just know the car isn't the one for you and what you ultimately want in the long run and so on. I found that with a few in the past tbh and some were highly tuned and others not so or basically stock.

I think the one car I loved more than anything out the box and I kept it that way (aside from the until late in my ownership found changed ECU) was the DC2, I never got tied of it, the grin it brought me both on road and track and I feel my DC5 is pretty much in the same place now with some added extra's. The one thing I wont be doing is going over the top with this one like I have other cars in the past.