so I drove a dc5 for first time.......

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TyperItr said:
I know a lot of people who swear their dc2 is faster. But at the end of the day there is nothing in it. The dc5 is tuned to not have that b-series kick when engaging vtec. It's not as low and raw as a dc2 I am guessing that's the experience you are feeling. But Honda didn't make a slower car as the next generation Integra. If you were in a well set up Car, it would probably still feel slower just due to the design but on the stopwatch would tell a different story.
moodyedge said:
Its not saying the dc2 is faster, just that my first go in the dc5 after 5 years of a dc2, I felt somewhat detached from the experience, not sure why. The noise inside was a bit lower but the car didint feel as alive. I expected to feel more power but it didnt really seem that way. I will have to try another.
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This.

I've owned a B series CRX and a B20 EK9 and they felt completely different to the DC5. The DC5 is smooth but feels soft in a way, mine still does now compared to the older cars but then again I don't have a decent suspension setup as such (Will have soon though).

When I drove the DC5 for the first time it felt slow in comparison to the B20 but once I started to open it up on the way home that's when I could really feel the difference.

The B20 was probably quicker off the mark and it was also stripped so felt more 'racy' however the DC5 is a deceptively quick car and once you're higher up in the rev band that is when you see the difference. It would be a lot quicker than the B16 CRX VTEC I had as well. Whoever says these cars don't have good torque is 'torquing' rubbish ha ha!!! They have excellent torque even in higher gears.

As mentioned above try and get in one that has been modified. The only modified one I've been in is Coyote's and it would out handle and outpace mine with ease and I can say that with some confidence. As the guys have mentioned, once you upgrade certain elements of the DC5 it improves the overall characteristics of the car massively.
 

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Crazylegs said:
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This.

I've owned a B series CRX and a B20 EK9 and they felt completely different to the DC5. The DC5 is smooth but feels soft in a way, mine still does now compared to the older cars but then again I don't have a decent suspension setup as such (Will have soon though).

When I drove the DC5 for the first time it felt slow in comparison to the B20 but once I started to open it up on the way home that's when I could really feel the difference.

The B20 was probably quicker off the mark and it was also stripped so felt more 'racy' however the DC5 is a deceptively quick car and once you're higher up in the rev band that is when you see the difference. It would be a lot quicker than the B16 CRX VTEC I had as well. Whoever says these cars don't have good torque is 'torquing' rubbish ha ha!!! They have excellent torque even in higher gears.

As mentioned above try and get in one that has been modified. The only modified one I've been in is Coyote's and it would out handle and outpace mine with ease and I can say that with some confidence. As the guys have mentioned, once you upgrade certain elements of the DC5 it improves the overall characteristics of the car massively.
Cheers.



Yeah, I guess the question is can one be located in the right condition, pref with all these changes already carried out and within budget. Having mods already done could save a few headaches because I know how difficult it is to get things done on performance cars around here. Its a joke....there are so many dodgy garages around.....I wouldn't trust them with even simple mechanical tasks. Had a few nightmares with a few of them.

The higher the prices go the more I start to look elsewhere, to stay NA and have the sound and fun that hondas offer.......the fd2 is on the top of my list, they are also past the top of any budget and Im not sure Im patient enough to hold off and save for longer. Never driven one but I love the look of them. Turbos may be a blast but....and I could go and get a mint evo 6, in white for well under 9k... but I dont want to pay through the nose for running costs.....so I keep coming back to hondas...they just appeal to me more than other names......I was honda daft for years, long before I ever owned one.........are there any integra events going in anywhere in the north west in the near future???????

North of Manchester would be handy.
 

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Once you get around the 9k figure you can get a supercharged teg for around that,quicker than a standard evo with half the running costs and still feels like a fast na in terms of power delivery. I would value mine at around 9k with the charger set up. 300+hp honda is fun!
 

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moodyedge said:
Cheers.



Yeah, I guess the question is can one be located in the right condition, pref with all these changes already carried out and within budget. Having mods already done could save a few headaches because I know how difficult it is to get things done on performance cars around here. Its a joke....there are so many dodgy garages around.....I wouldn't trust them with even simple mechanical tasks. Had a few nightmares with a few of them.

The higher the prices go the more I start to look elsewhere, to stay NA and have the sound and fun that hondas offer.......the fd2 is on the top of my list, they are also past the top of any budget and Im not sure Im patient enough to hold off and save for longer. Never driven one but I love the look of them. Turbos may be a blast but....and I could go and get a unblemished evo 6, in white for well under 9k... but I dont want to pay through the nose for running costs.....so I keep coming back to hondas...they just appeal to me more than other names......I was honda daft for years, long before I ever owned one.........are there any integra events going in anywhere in the north west in the near future???????

North of Manchester would be handy.
No worries!

Regarding maintenance. I know I bang on about this but I take my car for all massive and important work to Grinspeed in Leyland which isn't far from you, not sure whether you've heard of them before?

Stevie is an ex WRC Ford Rally team engineer and he's worked at TDI North in Warrington (another decent place for maintenance supposedly) so he knows his Jap stuff, mainly does Honda's more than anything but will also do French and German cars and his work his brilliant. If I'm being honest he doesn't charge much more than a regular mechanic and he knows these cars inside out, him and Lee are sound as well really nice guys.

I'm lucky as well in that my local mechanic who does my smaller jobs on the car is also great so plenty of decent specialist places around.

Also Area Motorsport in Crewe as well. Regarding meets, we're having another North Wales meet and drive in October if you fancy it, might be a bit of a trek for you though.

Marc
 

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integraleo said:
Once you get around the 9k figure you can get a supercharged teg for around that,quicker than a standard evo with half the running costs and still feels like a fast na in terms of power delivery. I would value mine at around 9k with the charger set up. 300+hp honda is fun!
yes!

I think I am aiming for around 10k as a budget so a charged one that looked standard from the outside sounds rather appealing.....how about melting pistons though...that would be my concern :s

Also, sorry to ask but how is it on fuel? People jump in and and something along the lines of "ohh if your bothered about fuel costs then a blar blar car isnt for you" usually when I ask about evo mpg as if your not allowed to ask the question.

With a girlfriend who lives in derbyshire, its something I have to consider. Other say get a cheap run around....but it sort of defeats the purpose of having a nice car if you hardly drive it. Plus theres the extra cost of two insurance policies, 2 taxes, 2 m.o.t tests a year, plus diesel etc. I dont do the drive often enough to justify running two cars so one good one that reasonable on fuel is the idea. The dc2 costs about £80 for a 400 mile round trip which isnt bad with 208bhp to play with in the way..

Two cars in one would be perfect which is pretty much honda in a nutshell with the vtec.

I know of some evos run duel switchable maps that you can change inside the car....sounds pretty handy.
 

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With 310hp I average 30mpg and on a run I can get 40mpg. Or in terms you can understand from having dc2 that's 300 miles from tankfull of fuel which cost £56 ish quid. Melting pistons is not an issue,k20s can take 350+hp on standard internals all day long
 

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integraleo said:
With 310hp I average 30mpg and on a run I can get 40mpg. Or in terms you can understand from having dc2 that's 300 miles from tankfull of fuel which cost £56 ish quid. Melting pistons is not an issue,k20s can take 350+hp on standard internals all day long
When you put it like that....why hasnt everybody got one?
 

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Ok. Well who knows, I might get lucky and spot a good one coming up for sale around the right time....
 

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Running 300 NA and return on long journeys about 325 to a tank ;)

Lovely cars had my almost 5 years now and loved every moment of it.


Gordon
 

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Teegwa said:
Running 300 NA and return on long journeys about 325 to a tank ;)
Lovely cars had my almost 5 years now and loved every moment of it.
Gordon
Not bad going that...do you have a build thread? I will have a look...

300 na!?
 

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I do miss the b18 vtec kick, loved it when you put your foot down and not much happened until you hit the magic 6k and all hell broke lose lol. But for me the dc5 is a great everyday car unlike the dc2.
 

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Rodtrotter said:
I do miss the b18 vtec kick, loved it when you put your foot down and not much happened until you hit the magic 6k and all hell broke lose lol. But for me the dc5 is a great everyday car unlike the dc2.
It certainly has its charm but Id like to find a car where theres power available when you want it and not having to wait until 6k all the time to get going anywhere fast........another thought I have is, technology moves on and although the dc2 is a great car......you can be beaten by a diesel golf these days or some twerp in a seat....
 

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moodyedge said:
It certainly has its charm but Id like to find a car where theres power available when you want it and not having to wait until 6k all the time to get going anywhere fast........another thought I have is, technology moves on and although the dc2 is a great car......you can be beaten by a diesel golf these days or some twerp in a seat....
But diesels golfs don't sound as good, and with a teg it's not a car you don't see all the time lol. And I'd imagen the golf wouldnt handle aswell in standard form.
 

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Rodtrotter said:
But diesels golfs don't sound as good, and with a teg it's not a car you don't see all the time lol. And I'd imagen the golf wouldnt handle aswell in standard form.
Not round a track no.

There are so many of these around.....many if them driving like complete and utter bell ends 90% of the time in skoda fabias with coloured wheels and body trim parts (whats that about?)

These mongs drive on your tail, thinking they can psychologically coax you into putting your foot down and they can get erect at the farting noise their cars make....... I always exercise the same policy......slow down a little.......just enough so they have to brake but dont realise your doing it on purpose. If they get closer and rev up......repeat. they eventually do what goons usually do.....the most predictable thing....fly by.



Anyway, Im side tracking. They are annoying though :)
 

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moodyedge said:
Not round a track no.

There are so many of these around.....many if them driving like complete and utter bell ends 90% of the time in skoda fabias with coloured wheels and body trim parts (whats that about?)

These mongs drive on your tail, thinking they can psychologically coax you into putting your foot down and they can get erect at the farting noise their cars make....... I always exercise the same policy......slow down a little.......just enough so they have to brake but dont realise your doing it on purpose. If they get closer and rev up......repeat. they eventually do what goons usually do.....the most predictable thing....fly by.



Anyway, Im side tracking. They are annoying though :)
No change coming to a dc5 then....the same will still happen lol
 
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