Toda cam breakages

[Rob.]

Anyone heard of Toda cams breaking in half when actually fitted in the engine ?

A mate of mine has had the inlet cam on Toda A2's break...

 

[mikegsi]

Never heard of it mate, ever.....

Not to say it won't/hasn't happened though

 

[C&S Evo7]

anything can break, especially if fitted incorrectly or past their sell by date, things like this can happen when second hand parts are fitted combined with new parts (ie second hand cams but new valvetrain) as they are not worn together.

many performance parts especially some parts from people like Toda are designed for race use only. what this means is they are not expected to last with out very
regular service or replacement,

 

[Rob.]

The cams have supposedly not done many miles in the previous engine and was being built up with new valve springs...

When setting up the timing with an adjustable cam gear it broke clean in half but there was no visual signs of hair line cracks or anything on the cam so somewhat frustrating really :angry:

 

[Tegiwa Imports]

There was recently a thread on Civinfo about a TODA cam defect in an FD2. TDI South changed it free of charge with TODA replacing the faulty part.

 

[b19twg]

could this not cause other damage in the head?

 

[Saint Matt]

Only if the engine was run, but it sounds like it snapped whilst being fitted. Happened to me with a Skunk2 Pro2 cam when torquing the cam caps down in my DC2, was down to me not fitting it with enough care. £200 later lesson learned, I was lucky to get a single cam at all!

 

[Rob.]

There was recently a thread on Civinfo about a TODA cam defect in an FD2. TDI South changed it free of charge with TODA replacing the faulty part.

Thats good to know but only probs is they are 2nd hand and not knowing the history of the previous engine are they really going to exchange it??
Unlikely I'd say...


No the engine wasn't run, happened while timing up..

 

[Stoo]

Gutted for you...

As you have said, without proof of purchase I doubt they will exchange them?!?

 

[Rob.]

Toda won't change the cam due to it not been new..

Pic of the break on the inlet cam

Sam at TDI South recons the reason for the break is that when the cams were taken out of the previous engine the bolts wern't taken out in sequence an more than likely undone from one end an due to the pressure of the valve springs it probably tried to bend the cam, and then when re-fitted soon as the cam was put under pressure it broke due to them been made from cast instead of steal..

So its another set of Toda cams or maybe Brian Cower, has anyone ever used Brian Cower cams in a K20 engine??

 

[pulpmelon_r]

You can buy inlet / exhaust cams seperately from toda, you may not need to buy a pair.

My current cams are cut from Brian Crower 8620 billet blanks, 6k miles of abuse, making good power.

 

[Rob.]

Sorry yes I meant a Toda cam or a set of Brian Crower that are only a little more for a pair than just an inlet Toda cam !!

 

[pulpmelon_r]

Sorry yes I meant a Toda cam or a set of Brian Crower that are only a little more for a pair than just an inlet Toda cam !!

Whats the full spec of your motor Rob?

 

[blueguy]

Whats the full spec of your motor Rob?

The motor is Rob's mate's EP3:

Engine and Drivetrain

DC Sports 4 to 1 Manifold
Scorpion de-cat system with 5inch back box
BLOX 72mm throttle body
RBC Inlet port matched to 72mm
Hondata heat shield gasket
AEM v2 Induction Kit
AEM Breather filter
Cold air feed through head light
Toda High Power Spec A2 cams
Toda valve springs
Toda adjustable cam gears
RC-440 injecters
Hondata K-pro ECU
TGM Baffled Sump
Wavetrak LSD
Spoon 5.1 final drive
Competition Clutch Lightened Flywheel
Competition Clutch Gravity Stage 1 Clutch
TGM Oil Cooler Kit
Titan Pro Race 5/40 oil
Hamp oil filter
Energy Engine Mount inserts
Samco Coolant Hoses
Buddy Club Earthing kit

 

[pulpmelon_r]

The motor is Rob's mate's EP3:

Engine and Drivetrain

DC Sports 4 to 1 Manifold
Scorpion de-cat system with 5inch back box
BLOX 72mm throttle body
RBC Inlet port matched to 72mm
Hondata heat shield gasket
AEM v2 Induction Kit
AEM Breather filter
Cold air feed through head light
Toda High Power Spec A2 cams
Toda valve springs
Toda adjustable cam gears
RC-440 injecters
Hondata K-pro ECU
TGM Baffled Sump
Wavetrak LSD
Spoon 5.1 final drive
Competition Clutch Lightened Flywheel
Competition Clutch Gravity Stage 1 Clutch
TGM Oil Cooler Kit
Titan Pro Race 5/40 oil
Hamp oil filter
Energy Engine Mount inserts
Samco Coolant Hoses
Buddy Club Earthing kit

That shorty header and SRI wont help wit da powerz :xtsk:

 

[Rob.]

Thanks for adding that bit matey...
Yeah not my Teg a mates EP3

It was running 240bhp with standard cams and throttle body so not bad really!

 

[C&S Evo7]

That shorty header and SRI wont help wit da powerz :xtsk:

Please speak English or get deleted . Text speak is not acceptable.

 

[Rob.]

The DC header isn't the shorty one either its the full race manifold, mild steel an ceramic coated...

 

[pulpmelon_r]

Please speak English or get deleted . Text speak is not acceptable.

I think you'll find thats straight up gangsta speak:

 

[C&S Evo7]

either way, i dont find it funny, it will be deleted without warning, be warned ;-) ;-)