sonicboom1
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As above.Have had it fitted but it rattles a little in low revs and stuff.Anyone forund a way to stop it rattleing?
Cheers folks
Cheers folks
Be wary of changing your engine mounts as you may find that it will ruin the day to day driving experience of your car!sonicboom1 said:whats the best kinda mounts to get ?
and what kinda price we talkin ?
I disagree I have got uprated engine mounts and they are tons better than the OEM ones, the vibrations thru the car arnt as intrusive as you'd think. Plus I have now set my idle slightly higher so there is now less vibrations. In terms of day to day driving I can say it has improved things dramatically !Gary said:Be wary of changing your engine mounts as you may find that it will ruin the day to day driving experience of your car!sonicboom1 said:whats the best kinda mounts to get ?
and what kinda price we talkin ?
I know guys who race DC5's and they advise keeping the OE items, with the aftermarket mounts significantly increasing the already not insignificant engine vibration, in fact if memory serves, Jonster changed his engine mounts only to change them back again within a month as he found the harshness unacceptable :!:
Over time it has seemed to settle down and the vibration has become less noticeable, whether this is because there is less of it, or I've got used to it, is difficult to say. I since fitted the ETD and it added a bit more NVH, but over time that has become less noticeable too.Evs said:In terms of the ESMMs, the short answer is yes they do make the car a fair bit harsher than standard. I've only driven it back from Warrington and was pretty tired, so not done a lot of analysis on it. There's a fair bit more vibration through the seat and steering wheel at idle, and there's some more buzz on overrun. The car is generally noisier but some of this could be down to the decat which has made the exhaust a bit louder. It has a more 'gravelly' note to it which is noticeable even at idle. Apart from that it's not too bad - Once the engine is spun up past about 1500rpm it's fine. I sat on the motorway at various *cough* cruising speeds and tbh it's perfectly tolerable.
On the positive side, the car feels much more responsive pulling away from rest, when accelerating (particularly in lower gears), and when picking up the throttle on the exit of a corner. The gearchange also seems more precise, in particular when changing up at high revs.
Overall it's made the car feel generally much more responsive, and a lot more businesslike and 'hardcore'. This is no bad thing in my book, and the advantages are worth the downsides, so the ESMMs will be staying.
Re: the squeek - I sorted this by rubbing engine oil into the scuttle panel and into the rubber lip.Evs said:User - as usual I completely agree with you. 8)
My GruppeM still squeaks a bit at low revs & when pulling away from rest, but there seems to be very little movement, it's just the rubber lip around the mouth of the airbox rubbing against the scuttle - probably fixable with some foam or double-sided tape.
evs can you evaluate more on what esmm`s stands for and j`s racing etd as i would like to get a better compromise on my teg.Evs said:User - as usual I completely agree with you. 8)
I have ESMMs and a J's Racing ETD. These were my thoughts on the ESMMs when I had them fitted
Over time it has seemed to settle down and the vibration has become less noticeable, whether this is because there is less of it, or I've got used to it, is difficult to say. I since fitted the ETD and it added a bit more NVH, but over time that has become less noticeable too.Evs said:In terms of the ESMMs, the short answer is yes they do make the car a fair bit harsher than standard. I've only driven it back from Warrington and was pretty tired, so not done a lot of analysis on it. There's a fair bit more vibration through the seat and steering wheel at idle, and there's some more buzz on overrun. The car is generally noisier but some of this could be down to the decat which has made the exhaust a bit louder. It has a more 'gravelly' note to it which is noticeable even at idle. Apart from that it's not too bad - Once the engine is spun up past about 1500rpm it's fine. I sat on the motorway at various *cough* cruising speeds and tbh it's perfectly tolerable.
On the positive side, the car feels much more responsive pulling away from rest, when accelerating (particularly in lower gears), and when picking up the throttle on the exit of a corner. The gearchange also seems more precise, in particular when changing up at high revs.
Overall it's made the car feel generally much more responsive, and a lot more businesslike and 'hardcore'. This is no bad thing in my book, and the advantages are worth the downsides, so the ESMMs will be staying.
My GruppeM still squeaks a bit at low revs & when pulling away from rest, but there seems to be very little movement, it's just the rubber lip around the mouth of the airbox rubbing against the scuttle - probably fixable with some foam or double-sided tape.
As Jon says though, everyone has their own views on what extra harshness is acceptable, and what is a reasonable trade-off for the extra response.
ESMMs = Energy Suspension Motor Mounts. These are polyurethane inserts that you fit into the OEM motor mounts, they fill the air gap and make them stiffer. System-R supplied and fitted mine, but you can buy them separately from ES dealers like Performance Solution www.performance-solution.co.ukgregb said:evs can you evaluate more on what esmm`s stands for and j`s racing etd as i would like to get a better compromise on my teg.
after a track day and some adjustments on the j`s racing engine damper the engine is still too free imo.
the amount of movement and lose of power on track day was terrible :?
Spoon strut and pipe lagging :idea:terry said:any good/proven way to stop the rattling besides modding OEM scuttle? something easy instead?