DC5 v S2k v Scooby P1 v EVO VI

[BUG4LIFE]

I know some of you guys don't like these kind of threads, but anyone who has had a few of the cars listed above will be able to help me?

A while ago I posted a thread about the Golf R32 compared to the DC5 but I reckon I wanna get away from German cars [as I've had 4]. I also know the 4 cars I'm asking your opinions on are totally different in character; 1 being the reason your on the site, 1 being a RWD roadster and the others turbo rally reps - but price wise, they all about the same [£15k or less], so I could have any.

I will start by saying if I didn't have to think about servicing costs, insurance, fuel bills etc, I'd be having the P1 or EVO VI - There isn't really any compromises with these cars; insane speed, room for 4 and a bunch of luggage, aggresive looks...but I do have to think about the cost of running such cars, so my first question would be; are we talking thousands of pounds more to use a Scooby or EVO as an only car [I know you gotta service both every 6k miles or 6 months]?

I guess the biggest choice to make between the S2k and DC5 is could I cope with only 2 seats? Can anyone tell me the difference in performance between the 2? I am yet to sit in an S2k but being 6' 6", the choice my be made for me? Oh yeah, for those how think the roadster is a chicks car, checkout these pics [Honda's look wicked in white innit?]:

 

[sinbad]

Evo is probably the most expensive to run.
My Subaru wasnt that expesnive to run as i thought.
S2k, great out the box. Less effective of the bunch, probably just as quick as a DC5 if the roads are right.
DC5 light, nimble ,easily tuneable to 240 -260bhp and probably has the least running costs.

My initial thoughts where the P1, but then its a classic shape and the interiors are rubbish,although its a special edition the mileage will just make the depreciation drop.
Then i thought evo as its slightly newer, but again not the best interior and running costs will be the highest.
S2k, great looker, fun RWD but only two seats and slower than the rest if the roads arent anything but bone dry.
DC5, does everything the S2k can do apart from have the roof down, has rear seats and a boot should you need them, lower runnning cost copared to the others. Surprisingly gets more looks than both the Sti and 350z i had. Being JDM will help to keep depreciation to a minimum.

I cant really give you a definitive answer as all cars on your list are great, but it all depends on what your after and whether you want a turbo, 4WD, performance, comfort, useability, rear seats, cost etcc. Id just drive them all if you could, im sure you'll get a better feeling of which one you actually prefer then.

 

[liktup]

I am yet to sit in an S2k but being 6' 6", the choice my be made for me?

I am 6'3 and I personally find the S2k cramped and the top of the windscreen is too low, plus I feel squished in for all round space, part of the reason I went for a Dc5 instead.

 

[dotty]

Who is that bird in your avatar?

 

[liktup]

Would you believe me if I said it was my wife :lol: :lol:


Its not actually my wife, she is far betterjust in case she reads this lol.

 

[celox performance]

I've been to some Evo & Scooby tracks days and even my Prelude can leave a P1 and Evos for dust :lol:

Ok the Prelude's not exactly standard but the engine's pushing less than 200bhp . Some of the Imprezas/Evos were 350bhp and had more than £15,000 spent on mods. You can only imagine what my DC5 is capable of with a few choice mods. It could be more down to my driving than the car, but nearly everyone I know who's got an Evo 5/6 has had problems with them and has cost them a fair bit in only the first year of ownership (including myself). Saying that they sell up and immediately get another model and then the problems start all over again :roll:

 

[BUG4LIFE]

Yeah that would be my biggest worry with an EVO or P1; more chance they gonna go pop than the Honda's and the high costs of getting them fixed. A P1 just passed me on the way back to work though...what a beast

 

[ally_mac]

AS you have said its very difficult too compare all these cars as they are so different from each other. I moved from the DC5 to a Evo IX GT and loving every minute of it, I dont find it too much dearer to run than my DC5 but then again both where not everyday cars, just used at weekends really. Provided you get a well looked after evo its very unlikely to go bang, so you should have to worry about that, although if something did go wrong it can be expensive. On the same note, I loved my DC5 and too be honest i might think about going back to one or a JDM Civic Type R (FD2) after the evo. S2000 is a lovely car, my mate has one but i think they are too cramped and the lack of space will annoy you after a while.

 

[lockwood77]

Actually, the P1 is quite a big compromise - it's very soft and the brakes are rubbish. The Evo is a much nicer car to drive and feels more "performance" - the P1 was bulit to try and match the Evo for speed but also be more comfortable cruising. They may just about have achieved the second aim... :wink: The Type-RA is much closer to a VI dynamically. Still looks like a horrible chav motor though... :wink:

You will need to be a good driver to get a S2kip round a track faster than a DC5. A standard Evo VI won't see much gap develop either, unless traction is an issue. Of course, the likelihood of any Evo VI being standard is pretty slim! :lol:

The Evo needs oil changes every 4500 miles, so you're looking at a lot of servicing, especially as the AYC fluid needs changing regularly too, making it fairly expensive and needing a specialist (would you really buy a performance car and not take it to a specialist though!?)

If you're really looking between a S2kip and a DC5, I would say how hard do you drive, how often and what level of practicality is required? Driving hard in a S2kip in the winter could see you in trouble, as with any RWD car. You also have to be sure you won't want to cart more than one person around as well! :wink:

There are a lot less DC5s on the road too (although it seems Andy is trying hard to rectify that!), so if rarity is your thing, it's a better choice. In most situations it will be the more practical and faster car too - unless you want the roof down or some drift action. 8)

 

[celox performance]

I have to say when I was watching at Oulton Park today, a few people took photos of my DC5 but I didn't see them taking photos of any of the other cars. That reminded me i'd made the right choice in buying a DC5 . There were other cars watching too, a couple of WRX's, an Evo, Mazda RX7, Aston Martin and others (mainly Corsas though :lol: )

 

[BUG4LIFE]

Thanks for all your opinions guys - it's good to hear from people who have owned more that just the DC5 and can compare the cars I've listed.

Another option is a 350Z [which I've loved since they first come out] but for £15k or less, I'd be looking at a high-miler - reckon they need a couple more years to drop to my budget, as £18k-£19k for early UK car is a touch to high? Like the idea of a big V6 though

 

[MilanoChris]

I test drove the 350Z and IMO it feels like a big heavy brick compared to the DC5. Sure the torque is wonderful, it pulls brutally in most gears unlike the teg (have to have high RPM unless KPRO'd), cornered nicely and sounds good, but it felt more of a "cruiser" then a sports car.