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Interesting that someone has voted n/a for drag. That would take some doing, i'm all for n/a but wow a sub 10 second n/a k20 would be kind of special!
dave c
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They can do it, but obviously not easy... or cheapcoyote_dc5 said:
http://youtu.be/Ie7pbJSnEdQ?t=5m19s
Sgtscotty182
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Just flicking through the forum as I was bored and found this wee poll which has caused a lot of questions and confusion in my fragile little head as I have just bought a JRSC and plan to track the teg a lot....
Most people have said N/A for track to be able to keep high revs and pull out corners.... Surely throttle response and pull isn't lost with a charger? I would have thought this would give similar throttle response/control until the boot is planted?
Please explain this in dumb but gentle form so I can understand why people have said this, are you speaking from experience or speculation?
Most people have said N/A for track to be able to keep high revs and pull out corners.... Surely throttle response and pull isn't lost with a charger? I would have thought this would give similar throttle response/control until the boot is planted?
Please explain this in dumb but gentle form so I can understand why people have said this, are you speaking from experience or speculation?
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Sgtscotty182 said:
blueguy said:
You don't really want to be changing gear mid corner, therefore if you have a higher rev limit, you have the potential to carry more speed in and out of a corner depending on the type of corner, gear ratios etc
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I have no idea who mentioned throttle response?
*EDIT - ITBs?
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With na for track I'd say it's not just about rev limit as that's all dependent on gearing more than anything. I'd say it would be more about reliability and perhaps weight distribution aswell? Not sure what a complete charger, cooler with all pipes etc weighs in at but it must add weight and change weight distribution.
How many charged cars do you see break down on track? More than n/a I'll bet. I think an NA could potentially look after its tyres better too but that's more just personal feeling than factual. Torque is good if you have traction but sometimes it can make things worse if there's too much. I used to think na gives a much smoother delivery of power throughout the Rev range in a more controlled fashion but can appreciate FI may have improved alot over the past 5 to 10 years
How many charged cars do you see break down on track? More than n/a I'll bet. I think an NA could potentially look after its tyres better too but that's more just personal feeling than factual. Torque is good if you have traction but sometimes it can make things worse if there's too much. I used to think na gives a much smoother delivery of power throughout the Rev range in a more controlled fashion but can appreciate FI may have improved alot over the past 5 to 10 years
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Anyone with a charged 5 got any input?
I've got a jrsc dc5. Been boosted since Christmas and I absolutely love it. IMO its a great setup for circuit racing being on boost all the time and peak torque being made so low down.
I believe you can match its performance na high comp but it's a far more expensive alternative.
I wouldn't be interested in turbos until the engine was built.
If you don't want to mess with internals the best way to go boosted is the Jackson as is designed to be used with oem internals and can still produce more power than the front wheels can handle
I believe you can match its performance na high comp but it's a far more expensive alternative.
I wouldn't be interested in turbos until the engine was built.
If you don't want to mess with internals the best way to go boosted is the Jackson as is designed to be used with oem internals and can still produce more power than the front wheels can handle
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DRAG, i dont cross dress so I have no idea !!
RACE, its been proven without a shadow of a doubt in Time attack that Honda NA is a country mile faster than Honda Forced induction .... BTCC is a 20 grand exception to the rule ! (if you consider the current equality as such) ,, this is due to turbo control systems that we didnt feel were relevant to normal national race regulations or financially viable, as 270-300 bhp NA was more than enough to dispel the 450+bhp supercharger myth. For that matter BTCC 300 bhp NA rule has been in force for ages until NGTC rules came out ......and they havnt made that much difference anyway.
ROAD, Toyota land cruisers are nice
RACE, its been proven without a shadow of a doubt in Time attack that Honda NA is a country mile faster than Honda Forced induction .... BTCC is a 20 grand exception to the rule ! (if you consider the current equality as such) ,, this is due to turbo control systems that we didnt feel were relevant to normal national race regulations or financially viable, as 270-300 bhp NA was more than enough to dispel the 450+bhp supercharger myth. For that matter BTCC 300 bhp NA rule has been in force for ages until NGTC rules came out ......and they havnt made that much difference anyway.
ROAD, Toyota land cruisers are nice
I do agree with you Dave that the chassis can handle it. But in my honest opinion round a circuit your better off with no more than 300whp to irradiate washing out under throttle in tight turns.dave c said:
I noticed the difference steeping up from na to jrsc. So I bet running your power would be the same step again.
Bring it out on track with us Dave and let's see what's what 😜
Coyote and I are thinking of booking a full day soon
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Forget all that why dont you watch this clip and say yeah we have all brought a honda for the music.
http://youtu.be/GWwG2_Xu4h0
http://youtu.be/GWwG2_Xu4h0