MilanoChris
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Really? :lol:SamDC5 said:I highly doubt car manufactures will test brands of oil, just oil grade and use whoever is going to give them the most money.
I'm done here.
Really? :lol:SamDC5 said:I highly doubt car manufactures will test brands of oil, just oil grade and use whoever is going to give them the most money.
Seeing as though you know everything? You've come on to the thread and done the old 'My mate told me this'. Your knowledge bemuses me, just how warped discs are a myth.Chris. said:Really? :lol:
I'm done here.
I think the guy Chris refers to is called Simon. I've seen the info he posts and he really does know his stuff. One thing I've learned is to check what standards these fabled Millers type oils actually meet versus the more mainstream offerings from Shell, Castrol, Mobil etc. You'll often find the latter are cheaper and meet the same standards, if not exceed them.MrRy said:Yeah, I'm being serious, mainly wondering if it is a small world.
Very interesting indeed! Good post, will be keeping an eye out in future for that spec stuff.Liam said:I think the guy Chris refers to is called Simon. I've seen the info he posts and he really does know his stuff. One thing I've learned is to check what standards these fabled Millers type oils actually meet versus the more mainstream offerings from Shell, Castrol, Mobil etc. You'll often find the latter are cheaper and meet the same standards, if not exceed them.
Millers NANODRIVE CFS 5w-40 NT+
Approx £54 for 5 litres from Opie Oils
"Manufactured to far exceed the requirements of API SM/CF and ACEA A3/B4"
Does that mean it meets these specifications? If it exceeds them, how much better is it and how do you even quantify that to compare it with another oil?
Shell Helix Ultra 5w40
I've had 5 litre bottles of this anywhere from £20-24 each from Carparts4less over the years
"Specifications: API SN/CF; ACEA A3/B3, A3/B4; BMW LL-01; MB approval 229.5, 226.5; VW 502.00/505.00; Porsche A40; Renault RN0700, RN0710; PSA B71 2296, Ferrari. Meets the requirements of Fiat 9.55535-Z2 and Chrysler MS-10725"
Taken from the Mobil website: "The letters next to API, such as SM, refer to the quality level of passenger vehicle motor oil. The current highest available standard is SN. CF is a diesel engine or commercial vehicle standard and the highest current one is CJ-4."
So according to the American Petroleum Institute, the Shell is a "higher quality level" than the Millers and also matches the ACEA A3/B4 standard the Millers claims to exceed.
I am in no way an expert, but if someone can convince me why the Millers is a "better" oil and back it up with some credible data, I will happily listen. Until then I'll stick to my cheap and cheerful Shell Helix 5w40. I change mine every year or every two track days - whatever comes first.
Well, someone has toChrismartin said:This thread has gotten me in tatters laughing my head off. Love this forum at times.
Haha! I think its still one of the better forums out there! If you don't like it why are you still here haha?dotty said:Well, someone has to
It was at its best from 2005 - 2007.. when only a few had them!
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