Type R R

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It is all true about the rumours, thats all they are nobody has actually gone to honda in japan to get the latest info, so nobody really knows what honda are planning.
To me as long as honda stick to there planned quantity like they did with the likes of the EK9 the Euro-R the NSX and the NSX-R which are all great to see when your lucky enough and not do what they did with EP3 and give the go ahead to make 1,000's more then i dont see a proplem with the R-R coming out with a rediculous price tag.
But at the end of the day its a waiting game, honda could do a 180 by 2007 and surprise everyone.
 

crxvtec

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chill man - there'll be a CTR. We won't want it cos we have tegs. Tegs will always kick Civic hide. Type RRs and other such are imaginary and won't make production as it wont make Honda money.
 

matt b

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andyd said:
I though it was some V12 Quad Turbo pumping out in the region of 2500Bhp though a new FWD systemm :lol:


Andy
almost its a one front wheel drive system :lol:
 

T8YPR

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You's are all so far up ur dated teg's ass. The new ctr in base model will wipe the floor with the teg. Here we go it'll never be dated. Its six years old now. I have had hondas from crx to crx vtec to dc2 to ctr to dc5. Honda moves on and believe it whether you like it or not so does its cars.

And for the guy who said Honda wont make an all wheel drive car for a few limited models. They have already developed it. The new honda legend in japan was just given an award for the best awd system of the year in japan! I never said that it would be awd but i certainly hope it is.
 

kingston

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T8YPR said:
You's are all so far up ur dated teg's ass. The new ctr in base model will wipe the floor with the teg. Here we go it'll never be dated. Its six years old now. I have had hondas from crx to crx vtec to dc2 to ctr to dc5. Honda moves on and believe it whether you like it or not so does its cars.

And for the guy who said Honda wont make an all wheel drive car for a few limited models. They have already developed it. The new honda legend in japan was just given an award for the best awd system of the year in japan! I never said that it would be awd but i certainly hope it is.
And your basing your assumptions on what information about the teg being outdated by the new CTR? Why do i care if the Tegs dont have leather, leather just burns your ass in the summer making it uncomfortable...

How old is the current CTR? Is the DC5 older, if so it doesnt look to be that outdated to its younger 'brother' does it?

Yes time and technology do move on but with the advent of this comes strict laws/regs that manufacturers have to adhere to and the extras that consumers now expect as standard = more weight... Example of this is the current golf...

Whereas would you say that the Ferrari F40 is outdated? Ok it doesnt have luxuries shall we say but how many current cars can do 60 in less than 4 secs? The F40 is coming up to its 20th birthday is it not?

How many legends are being built and sold? How many other new AWD systems come in to existance the same year as Honda AWD?
 

T8YPR

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Noticing you have the red dc5 we'll assume your a ferarri fan. Therefore the f40 will be your personal choice. The veyron will be the best car of our generation. It beats any other car hands down in every department but as previously said personal preferences come up tops.
 

dan the man

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T8YPR said:
Noticing you have the red dc5 we'll assume your a ferarri fan. Therefore the f40 will be your personal choice. The veyron will be the best car of our generation. It beats any other car hands down in every department but as previously said personal preferences come up tops.
'noticing u have a red DC5 u are.....WTF!'

SO EVERY person on here with black likes black cabs do they :|

jeez man...HEAD THE BALL
 

kingston

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Id take the F40 too

A car like the VEyron will probably never be undertaken again due to an oil crisis (wait until car transportation really takes off in China) and several other factors, plus the fact that it reportedly costs VW £5 mill to build and they sell it for 700k or whatever it is....

I bet the Veyron wouldnt beat my previous car (seicento) in parking into a tight city spot! i bet it would win though the worst mpg but im imaging that the Hummer would give it a run for its money in that stake
 

dan the man

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i wouoldnt argue to be honest!!!

but deep inside id like to drive the F40 more.......

ooooooooooooooooooooo :p
 

truffs

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kingston said:
I bet an RR doesnt exist or will go like the Fiesta RS
Honda do make RR's and this is on their bikes. The RR standing for 'Race Replica' i.e the CBR600RR which is a road going version of the race bike. So the question has to be asked, ifthey are to make a Civic RR is it to be based around a racing Civic? :idea: :?:
 

crxvtec

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T8YPR said:
You's are all so far up ur dated teg's ass. The new ctr in base model will wipe the floor with the teg. Here we go it'll never be dated. Its six years old now. I have had hondas from crx to crx vtec to dc2 to ctr to dc5. Honda moves on and believe it whether you like it or not so does its cars.

And for the guy who said Honda wont make an all wheel drive car for a few limited models. They have already developed it. The new honda legend in japan was just given an award for the best awd system of the year in japan! I never said that it would be awd but i certainly hope it is.
Cool, you have owned all the cars I have. So you think the game moves on? So why is the CRX VTEC a much better car than its successor? Why does the DC2 get admiration from DC5 owners? Why do people but Lancia Delta Integrales and Escort Cosworths when the Focus RS is out? I'll tell you - some cars are more than the sum of its parts. Newer models are often the product of safety standards as much as passion for engineering so it's possible that a newer model can be less desirable than an older one - the game doesn't necessarily move on.

As for your AWD system in the Legend, it just won't fit into a DC5/EP3 chassis economically - this is why they've not done it for production (think - if they wanted to, they could and then go head to head against the Mitsubishi Lancer Evo/Subaru Impreza WRX) but AWD is not the market they're in at this price point. To develop an AWD system for the EP3/DC5 chassis would take a lot of expensive R&D/engineering, the fruits of which would not be enough to justify the outlay - hence it won't happen. Remember, Honda, Toyota and other large manufacturers make their money on selling volume cars, not niche models. Their best efforts on creating niche models are when they have very little to change from a standard model - and to change the furniture (i.e. roll bars, brakes, engines, etc.) is much cheaper than going for bespoke drivetrains or changing other apsects of sheet metal.

The new CTR might well wipe the floor with the current teg, but there'll be a new teg (may not bear that name but think of the concept rather than the details) that'll kill the new CTR - because Honda position their CTR below the ITR and they'd not sell any ITRs if what you say is true.
 
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